Pac vs Barerra...somthing weird i noticed [Archive]

jimmie

08-04-2007, 03:07 PM

even in the first round barerra's shots seemed to have absolutely no snap in them. any decent reason for this?

Not making excuses but his training camp was broken up for a few days cause of the Fire in Big Bear. To fight a guy like Pacquiao you need those full 6-8 weeks straight with no gaps to be at your best trust me anybody here whos actually boxed will know this boxing isnt something you can just do a few days then stop then do it agian and expect to be at your best. However Pacquiao that night was going to be to much anyway as Barrera seemed to not be ready for that devestating combo of speed/power. If you watch JMM-Pacquiao round 1 JMM didnt seem to hurt he seemed more shocked then anything that a guy that small is that fast and powerful its like WTF is wrong with that guy kinda feeling.

PATSYS

08-04-2007, 03:09 PM

even in the first round barerra's shots seemed to have absolutely no snap in them. any decent reason for this?

As far as I can see, Barrera was exactly the same guy he was in the 1st 2 rounds until the he tasted Pac's awesome power.

PATSYS

08-04-2007, 04:08 PM

Even Barrera knew all those things were the reasons why he lost the fight that is why he was so enthusiastic at rematching Pac - only 4 years later when he is looking at a good retirement money. :D

tays001

08-04-2007, 04:22 PM

Even Barrera knew all those things were the reasons why he lost the fight that is why he was so enthusiastic at rematching Pac - only 4 years later when he is looking at a good retirement money. :D

i hope pac KO's barrera i hate barrera. but i sure hope PAC gets KO"D soon cuz i really hate his fans . they are such hugger and very dillusional.

kg0208

08-04-2007, 04:26 PM

I just don't think Barrera can handle Pacman's speed. Morales had a hard time with it even in the fight he won.

PATSYS

08-04-2007, 04:52 PM

The worst kinda of trolls, people with excuses for their fighters.

Its the saddest really.

The worst thing is that this happens in a boxing forum.

Boxing was partly invented to end excuses and settle things in the ring.

Unbelievable!

I believe in valid excuses, expecially if there is something concrete to back it up.

But invalid excuses is when a fighters loses, he must be shot or too green.

MAB has been impressive in all his fights in 5 years and was ranked by most as #2 P4P, some even go as high as #1. After Pac, MAB has once again been impressive for 3 more year and even climbed up again to as high as #4 P4P in the ranking.

No excuses there really. Pac beat a MAB who was thought to be at the peak of his game.

Dano

08-04-2007, 05:45 PM

i hope pac KO's barrera i hate barrera. but i sure hope PAC gets KO"D soon cuz i really hate his fans . they are such hugger and very dillusional.

Why would you hate Barrera? Pacs fans? That a lot of hate! Is it really because they are "dillusional", and if so WTF does that mean?

tays001

08-04-2007, 06:30 PM

Why would you hate Barrera? Pacs fans? That a lot of hate! Is it really because they are "dillusional", and if so WTF does that mean?

first off i dnt realy hat barrera i just like to see him ko'd he's always complaining. and pac fans most are ignorant

jackiebrown

08-04-2007, 08:05 PM

i know pac fans arent accuseing barrera fans of making excuses... wasnt it the pac fans who claimed pac wasnt wearing the right socks for a fight?

and didnt they also claim that the night before a fight pac had too many people in his hotel room ?..

pac fans make excuses just like the rest of them

loui_ludwig

08-04-2007, 08:27 PM

So, when a fighter wins, he was fully at his best. But when he losses, he isn't fully at his best.

jackiebrown

08-04-2007, 08:44 PM

Morrissey

08-04-2007, 09:53 PM

even in the first round barerra's shots seemed to have absolutely no snap in them. any decent reason for this?

I only noticed that his punches had no snap in them after rd. 3, where he was shockingly knocked-down, and he was like,"WTF happened? IS that for real?". After that round, he looked discouraged and helpless, perhaps, he had realized that his punches would have no effect against the combination of speed and power of his foe.

But during the first two rounds. he was in his normal self IMO, and he was even aggressive in his offense.

acb

08-04-2007, 10:22 PM

see there you are wrong, once you are in that ring there are no excuses. If you have excuses, dont fucking fight!

If you have a broken rib and still fought then you deserve to lose coz you're fuckin stupid.

I think Pac beat Barrera fair and square. I dont think that Barrera was as good as he could have been that night, but I dont make excuses for him. This business about fires in training camps, etc... with his money he could have been airlifted to another training camp and settled in within 24 hours.

I have one issue with Pac fans though saying Barrera should have no excusses, and that is that they make several for HIS LOSSES early in his career. And Im pretty damm positive that when he loses we will hear some more.

acb

08-04-2007, 10:24 PM

Those excuses are justified because the result of that fight was draw, not a loss, although it could have a win for Pac. They have their bases, though, by blisters he got on his feet. :deal

I don't know about the many people in his room. Were you there? :lol::lol::lol:

If your not joking...

Your doing exactly what Chimba is complaining about, unbelievable. :-(

I know you though, and you are to Pac what bigtime is to PBF.

Stinky gloves

08-05-2007, 12:07 AM

He claimed not making excuses and made them anyway. Take your boyfriend's loss like a woman, err.. a man, dude. :D:D:D

Here compare their KO/TKO wins in their last 8 fights:

Barrera has 2 KO/TKO wins in 8 fights w/ 4 UD and 2 losses
Pacquiao has 5 KO/TKO wins in 8 fights (including Barrera) w/ 1 UD,
1 loss, 1 draw

Records speak for themselves that Pac has more devastating punches to knock out his opponents. No need to offer excuses.

So waht was you excused for PAC loses so far?

PATSYS

08-05-2007, 12:26 AM

see there you are wrong, once you are in that ring there are no excuses. If you have excuses, dont fucking fight!

If you have a broken rib and still fought then you deserve to lose coz you're fuckin stupid.

So, Berbick is a better fighter than Ali because he beat Ali in the ring?

Mccall and Brian Nielsen are both better fighters than Holmes?

If it is that simple to you, I am not even going to bother reading your next post.

aliwasthegreatest

08-06-2007, 11:36 PM

The worst kinda of trolls, people with excuses for their fighters.

Its the saddest really.

The worst thing is that this happens in a boxing forum.

Boxing was partly invented to end excuses and settle things in the ring.

Unbelievable!

there fighters? dude how often do i post on barerra? go ahead and check it out. you REALLY think i need to make excuses....for someone i don' t know and will never know or be friends with? makes alot of sense dude. he simply just didn't seem to have any snap on his punches to me thats all.

boxbox

08-06-2007, 11:51 PM

So, when a fighter wins, he was fully at his best. But when he losses, he isn't fully at his best.

thats their usual excuse in here, or somewhat to that sense, where i believe that once you and your team decides to get in the ring with an opponent, no matter how unprepared or sick, or sad...there should be no excuses. So if you're planning on making a situation, incident or whatever before the fight as an excuse, then dont get in the ring. cause that takes away the proper credit your opponent deserves.

aliwasthegreatest

08-07-2007, 09:55 AM

See how biased you are, see it from a perspective that he was getting a beatdown from the very beginning, that might have caused the lost of snap.

heheh your bating so bad dude. but i dunno, if thats how you see it its how you see it. i just dissagree. like in the first round which i thought he won, his punches just seemed to be nothing but weak arm punches....but hey different people see different things