View Full Version : Khan's comeback and De La Hoya-Pacquiao PPV
jamie30002000
10-28-2008, 03:35 PM
Just announced on SkySports. Another bad day for boxing......
JIM KELLY
10-28-2008, 03:37 PM
Was expecting this, i would have payed for the pacman fight anyways.
jamie30002000
10-28-2008, 03:38 PM
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GazOC
10-28-2008, 03:45 PM
Well it was always to be expected.
ConcretePete
10-28-2008, 03:46 PM
I think Froch is on the same night aswell, hope he's on setanta.
GazOC
10-28-2008, 03:46 PM
Itv
Uppercut83
10-28-2008, 03:50 PM
What the fuck are you complaining about?
DLH vs Pac is clearly worth £15, forget the Khan and Cook shit.
faisal
10-28-2008, 03:57 PM
if cooks fighting juarez then its obviously going to be a 5 round 1 sided beatdown with cook being layed flat out. as for khan well if he's fighting gethin then it could be interesting if he even gets KD'd its the end of his career with SN is it worth 15 quid...........
El Cepillo
10-28-2008, 04:00 PM
not that i have a choice 'cause i dont have sky
will watch the froch fight and enjoy that
then catch the rest on you tube
any chance khan is going to fight someone half decent?
phonk
10-28-2008, 04:20 PM
Even if Pacman were to beat Oscar around the ring for 12 rounds i'd still pass on paying £15 for it.
What's Sky's continued justification for PPV boxing when Setanta are offering PPV calibre fights in their basic subscription?
Bonavena25
10-28-2008, 04:37 PM
I can already hear the sound of Nelson, Watt, McCrory and co dusting off their suits :)
dwilson
10-28-2008, 04:51 PM
Jeez nothing on the bill is worth me staying awake all night to watch never mind paying £15 for it. Pac vs Oscar is a joke, Cook vs Juarez is ok just because I want to see a Brit in a top class world title fight and unless Khan is fighting a stern test or top American journeyman then I really could not give a fuck. I can not wait for this ppv to bomb out like the last Khan ppv did.
No one likes you mate AND your shit now fuck off!
I doubt ****** will put Cook in with Juarez-it's too risky. What's better value, this or the next prizefighter and Hatton-Malignaggi?
dwilson
10-28-2008, 05:04 PM
I doubt ****** will put Cook in with Juarez-it's too risky. What's better value this or the next prizefighter and Hatton-Malignaggi?
Well I would be tempted to buy the next Hatton vs Malifaggi fight without the Prizefighter bonus but I may just live stream em both.
Sky are wankers for putting Prizefighter in with the ppv package though, no need for it. The show is good and starts the weekend off well.
Well I would be tempted to buy the next Hatton vs Malifaggi fight without the Prizefighter bonus but I may just live stream em both.
Sky are wankers for putting Prizefighter in with the ppv package though, no need for it. The show is good and starts the weekend off well.
Yeah, Maloney wanted to put a card on as part of the PPV with Munroe defending his Euro belt but Hearn said he wanted to do a Prizefighter an d Sky went with that.
You're right, Prizefighter has no place on a PPV bill, they should have put in on the Friday and the Maloney card with the PPV.
Uppercut83
10-28-2008, 05:45 PM
Well I would be tempted to buy the next Hatton vs Malifaggi fight without the Prizefighter bonus but I may just live stream em both.
Sky are wankers for putting Prizefighter in with the ppv package though, no need for it. The show is good and starts the weekend off well.
You moan about Oscar vs Pac being PPV then say you'll buy Hatton on PPV?
Stupid Hatton nuthuggers.
definitely not paying for this.
itv for me. i'll have to sacrfice watching the ****** card, and try to catch a stream of dlh-pac
robpalmer135
10-28-2008, 06:54 PM
if enzo macc vs banks is on the card, then it will be worth it. the show is on for 4 hours before it goes to the states so we should get at least 3 fights.
Enzo vs Banks
Fraudley vs Rogan
Khan vs Bantamweight
Cook vs WBO Number 15
Juan Manuel Lopez vs Martinez
Manny Pac vs Oscar DLH
if enzo macc vs banks is on the card, then it will be worth it. the show is on for 4 hours before it goes to the states so we should get at least 3 fights.
Enzo vs Banks
Fraudley vs Rogan
Khan vs Bantamweight
Cook vs WBO Number 15
Juan Manuel Lopez vs Martinez
Manny Pac vs Oscar DLH
if that was the card and there was no itv show on at the same time i might consider paying for it.
I'm tempted by this PPV. Depends on Khan and Cook's opponents. ****** has also promised another world title fight for the card. If it's Enzo-Banks then I may end up paying for it.
Eubank
10-28-2008, 07:07 PM
Fucking joke. Fuck you Sky
TehRileh
10-28-2008, 07:10 PM
I seriously dont mind paying £15 for this, call me whatever. But i do want JML and Victor Ortiz televised on the DLH v Pac so i get to watch alot of fights + with the itv, ima enjoy that night of boxing :)
Mike_S
10-28-2008, 07:12 PM
I'll be buying it, I was anyway just to see Pac vs Oscar, joke match up or not, I'm excited to see it. Khan's or Cook's opponents arn't going to be huge draws, so asif they're going to be the deciding factor in parting with my 15 quid. Sure I'll be going out that night anyway so 15 quid on top isn't a lot of money. Better than staying in watching the ITV card I think. I think some people need to be more honest with themselves here, if you want it you don't have to justify it! I bet most here will be paying.
HairyHighlander
10-28-2008, 07:53 PM
Well said Mike_S, dont mean to upset the applecart but, i love boxing, i'd pay 15 quid just to hear the cornermans words of wisdom, call me what you will , its my favourite sport, hobby, love etc
Tbh as you says, its nothing on top of a good night out, eg, 3 beers in a poncy pub that i dont even like !
Many here are just checking there last words or someone elses.
As we all all know this place is frequented by coaches, pro's amatuers etc The ones i know off, they dont even whistle, probably as they have already ordered.
Cry me a river
Hairy :bbb
Uppercut83
10-28-2008, 08:49 PM
People who moan about paying £15 for De La Hoya vs Pacquaio should just fuck off and watch UFC or some shit, its a superfight and clearly PPV worthy, the same idiots will pay £15 for Hatton and not complain at all.
Claypole
10-28-2008, 08:51 PM
I'm tempted by this PPV. Resist the urge, be strong.
Claypole
10-28-2008, 08:57 PM
People who moan about paying £15 for De La Hoya vs Pacquaio should just fuck off and watch UFC or some shit, its a superfight and clearly PPV worthy, the same idiots will pay £15 for Hatton and not complain at all.If people refused to fork out the money for PPV, then PPV would die out. This show is not PPV worthy, nothing is at the moment, as Setanta prove time and time again.
I never paid for Hatton v Lazcano, or Hatton v Mayweather, it's all a con, don't you see?
Uppercut83
10-28-2008, 09:09 PM
If people refused to fork out the money for PPV, then PPV would die out. This show is not PPV worthy, nothing is at the moment, as Setanta prove time and time again.
I never paid for Hatton v Lazcano, or Hatton v Mayweather, it's all a con, don't you see?
You didn't pay for Hatton vs Mayweather? :yep
Boxing has always been PPV, you should follow another sport if you don't like it.
Claypole
10-28-2008, 09:18 PM
Boxing has always been PPV, you should follow another sport if you don't like it.What are you on about? When did you first watch a boxing match on the tv? Boxing has most certainly not always been PPV, in fact tha vast majority of all the boxing I have ever seen has not been PPV.
Edit: Even at your young age you must remember when boxing was free on "normal" tv?
Uppercut83
10-28-2008, 09:21 PM
What are you on about? When did you first watch a boxing match on the tv? Boxing has most certainly not always been PPV, in fact tha vast majority of all the boxing I have ever seen has not been PPV.
Edit: Even at your young age you must remember when boxing was free on "normal" tv?
Its been consistant PPV's every year since about 1994 and it won't go away.
Claypole
10-28-2008, 09:27 PM
Its been consistant PPV's every year since about 1994 and it won't go away.Boxing was invented long before 1994! Let's be honest, Khan v Prescott would never have been PPV in 1994. If we all boycotted PPV's, they might not go away, but they may start charging more reasonable fees.
Uppercut83
10-28-2008, 10:05 PM
Boxing was invented long before 1994! Let's be honest, Khan v Prescott would never have been PPV in 1994. If we all boycotted PPV's, they might not go away, but they may start charging more reasonable fees.
I agree that wasn't worth PPV but DLH vs Pac is.
You're talking best p4p fighter in the world against a legend.
kerrminator
10-28-2008, 11:46 PM
DLH vs Pac is nowhere near PPV worthy :?
Its a fucking joke and an insult to real boxing fans intelligence that they have the audacity to charge us for it imo and I will be watching the same high quality stream I always watch. If it wasnt for A Mere Khon getting his botty smacked in his last fight they would be passing the night off as PPV without the Oscar v Pac fight.
Claypole
10-29-2008, 05:05 AM
I agree that wasn't worth PPV but DLH vs Pac is.
You're talking best p4p fighter in the world against a legend.Sorry, but this is most certainlty not PPV worthy. Judging by your age you are no doubt largely used to subscription channels and PPV, so I can see why you might naturally believe this to be PPV worthy.
However, in boxing history this fight really isn't that big a deal. I remember watching the likes of a young Mike Tyson, Marvin Hagler, SRL, Larry Holmes, Muhammed Ali, etc, etc, all free on the BBC and ITV.
ODLH v Pac does not deserve to be PPV. Anybody remembering just how good free boxing used to be will know where I'm coming for.
Khan v Prescott should have been investigated by the authorities for being PPV. This fight isn't far behind to be honest....
saturday_kid
10-29-2008, 05:51 AM
To be honest if we do get to see cook, khan, rogan/audley, and jml, ortiz and oscar/pacman as ppv goes thats a pretty value for money one (compared to recent ones).
I just dont like ppv its setting a precedent think were gonna end up like america, paying for most half decent fights.
I'll be at the Froch show (would've watched that on TV anyway regardless) then gonna try and get in a bar to watch it. I will probably buy a copy of the ppv on dvd though for the collection.
Bluenose
10-29-2008, 06:34 AM
Don't quite understanding the negativity. You are practically getting Cook and Khan for free considering most including myself would quite happily shell out a mere 15 quid for this years superfight.
SouthpawSlayer
10-29-2008, 07:23 AM
whats all the complaining about oys, it aint a bad day for boxing, come on who honestly thought setanta would get this fight sky have the ppv opportunity so are able to fork up much more money
its only 15 pound 22 euro ffs
El Cepillo
10-29-2008, 07:33 AM
whats all the complaining about oys, it aint a bad day for boxing, come on who honestly thought setanta would get this fight sky have the ppv opportunity so are able to fork up much more money
its only 15 pound 22 euro ffs
Some people don't have sky, so even if they were willing to buy it, they couldn't.
Pac vs De La Hoya may be a superfight, but then putting things on PPV channels, and then PPV events, then how is that going to help boxing attract new fans? If only a small % of people can actually watch it.
D-MAC
10-29-2008, 07:40 AM
I have to admit that I will probably pay for Pac-DLH PPV, especially is some of the aforementioned possible undercard fights are included.
jamie30002000
10-29-2008, 07:57 AM
Mayweather vs De La Hoya was free last year.. Don't see why people are willing to pay 15 pound now for Pac vs De La Hoya...
Mike_S
10-29-2008, 07:59 AM
Credit to those standing by their morals not to buy PPV but I can never resist! I think I've bought them all as way back as i can remember. At least Most of the biggest and best fights are on Setanta now, Sky only really have Hatton and De La Hoya superfights these days after the Khan joke which I actually went to watch live, first time at a fight and had a good experience. My dad and brother payed the PPV for that too though, last minute they couldn't resist ha ha. I'll be having people round for Hatton-Malignaggi too, as I did for Hatton-Lazcano because my parents were away so made the most and had a good night then went out after it. I really wasn't sure if I was going to pay for that one though if it hadn't been for the party opportunity.
GazOC
10-29-2008, 07:59 AM
Do we really have to go through this every PPV?
saturday_kid
10-29-2008, 08:04 AM
Some people don't have sky, so even if they were willing to buy it, they couldn't.
Pac vs De La Hoya may be a superfight, but then putting things on PPV channels, and then PPV events, then how is that going to help boxing attract new fans? If only a small % of people can actually watch it.
Exactly great point, especially with UFC etc increasing in popularity (and not being on ppv) its not winning boxing any new fans.
Beeston Brawler
10-29-2008, 08:08 AM
DLH vs Mayweather was PPV
jamie30002000
10-29-2008, 08:52 AM
I'm pretty sure it was broadcast on Sky Sports one. I could be wrong but I remember watching it.....
Khan is never ppv material in my eyes, but for a london bill and the US bill ill pay, i pay most times anyway...
just goes to show what good value Setanta is...
Ticketmasters official site currently has Oisin Fagan listed as Amir Khan's comeback opponent at London's Excel on 6th Dec....
macho
10-29-2008, 09:46 AM
DLH vs Mayweather was PPV
No it was on Sky Sports One.
Ticketmasters official site currently has Oisin Fagan listed as Amir Khan's comeback opponent at London's Excel on 6th Dec....
Looks decent on paper and has beaten our very own Jeff Thomas :twisted:.
How good is he?
Chinny
10-29-2008, 09:52 AM
DLH vs Mayweather was PPV
Nope, it was definitely live on SS1.
This is a feckin joke. I am sure most of the PPV cash raised goes to ****** and Khan after the deal they signed. The DLH-Paq fight is there to clinch it for proper fans like us.
I'm refusing to line their pockets and attending the real bill in Nottingham.
If we keep our cash in our pockets and the viewing figures are as bad as the Prescott fight were alleged to be, they'll think twice about pulling this shit again.
Ticketmasters official site currently has Oisin Fagan listed as Amir Khan's comeback opponent at London's Excel on 6th Dec....
hes on my bewbo ...ill drop him a wee line and see if he is .
robpalmer135
10-29-2008, 11:14 AM
absolute bullshit opponent.
john b
10-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Thats bollocks just because moneybags khan wants a couple of million we have to pay for a US fight which his usually on for free for skysports. thats my rant over I'll gladly pay sky for the pac v oscar fight because that'll be a barnstormer. On the subject of khan lets bring prescott back over for another 54 second round KO.
surreal deal
10-29-2008, 01:39 PM
What the fuck are you complaining about?
DLH vs Pac is clearly worth £15,. :blood:huhHUH?
Claypole
10-29-2008, 01:49 PM
Do we really have to go through this every PPV?:yep:yep
surreal deal
10-29-2008, 01:59 PM
PPV-Piss Poor Value.
Doyley10
10-29-2008, 02:40 PM
Its been consistant PPV's every year since about 1994 and it won't go away.
March 16th 1996. Bruno v Tyson II unless my memory is playing tricks. Benn and Hamed on the underard? :think
phonk
10-29-2008, 05:33 PM
March 16th 1996. Bruno v Tyson II unless my memory is playing tricks. Benn and Hamed on the underard? :think
Bruno vs Tyson I was the first PPV that i can remember in this country.
Claypole
10-29-2008, 05:53 PM
Bruno vs Tyson I was the first PPV that i can remember in this country.You mean the 2nd one? The 1st one was on the BBC (oh, those were the days!)
izmat
10-29-2008, 06:18 PM
You mean the 2nd one? The 1st one was on the BBC (oh, those were the days!)
the highlights of the first match was shown on BBC a day after the match
Bodysnatcher
10-29-2008, 06:40 PM
I sometimes whine about Setanta not getting enough fights, but when I look at Sky, I realise I don't have a leg to stand on.
Setanta gives you value for money, Sky takes the piss out of you.
SouthpawSlayer
10-29-2008, 07:00 PM
Some people don't have sky, so even if they were willing to buy it, they couldn't.
Pac vs De La Hoya may be a superfight, but then putting things on PPV channels, and then PPV events, then how is that going to help boxing attract new fans? If only a small % of people can actually watch it.
well if someone classes themselves as real boxing fans im sure they wouldnt mind forking out 30 quid a month for sky, come on we live in the modern era, if you dont have sky you miss out on the boxing on sky sports, nuts, setanta, espn
the majority of households these days have sky so its not a small amount of people that can only watch it
SouthpawSlayer
10-29-2008, 07:02 PM
You mean the 2nd one? The 1st one was on the BBC (oh, those were the days!)
no the first ever PPV fight screened by sky was bruno tyson 1
Flyin Ryan
10-29-2008, 07:03 PM
Boxing has always been PPV, you should follow another sport if you don't like it.
Isn't that the problem, people are and have been doing that?
jamie30002000
10-29-2008, 07:45 PM
Isn't that the problem, people are and have been doing that?
Hit the nail on the head!!!
Claypole
10-29-2008, 08:08 PM
no the first ever PPV fight screened by sky was bruno tyson 1Not in the UK.
GazOC
10-29-2008, 08:19 PM
IIRC Bruno-Tyson 1 was Sky but not PPV, the second fight was the first boxing PPV in the UK.
Claypole
10-29-2008, 08:49 PM
Bottom line is this: PPV sucks, and forking out extra money for regular fights does not make a viewer a "real" boxing fan.
Real fans are concerned about the direction these farcical PPV's are steering the sport.
A lot of the younger boxing fans don't know what boxing on the telly used to be like, and seem to think that PPV is perfectly acceptable, even for less than the top fights. It's not.
Look at the fights that Setanta put on, and even ITV showed Calzaghe v Lacey free of charge. This proves that PPV is not a necessary evil. If we stopped paying it, they would have to stop charging it.
GazOC
10-29-2008, 08:54 PM
I honestly don't understand what people on here, who must at least be a bit computer literate, don't pay a couple of quid a month to a DECENT streaming site and get all the Sky/ Setanta/ HBO/ Showtime fights for fuck all?
kerrminator
10-29-2008, 09:02 PM
Credit to those standing by their morals not to buy PPV but I can never resist! I think I've bought them all as way back as i can remember.
Fair enough mate but as long as people keep paying for it then its only a matter of time before these crooks (SKY) put setanta out of business with all the un-earned cash they recieve and we will end up paying for peter buckley's comback fight against Amir's grandson in 40 years.
Channels like setanta need our support but as the lod saying goes....money talks and even they cant compete with the green :(
It pisses me off that we pay for sky sports and then they tell us that if we want to watch a big event we need to pay again....what the fuck is that all about? ... its kinda like theyre telling us that the sport channels we already pay for are in actuall fact CRAP and we need to cough up more of our hard earned cash just to enjoy a decent event. OH, and lets not forget that even the so called decent events are becoming more and more shitty as the years go by (Khan v Prescott was the last straw for me)
kerrminator
10-29-2008, 09:03 PM
DLH vs Mayweather was PPV
no it wasnt
Claypole
10-29-2008, 09:06 PM
I honestly don't understand what people on here, who must at least be a bit computer literate, don't pay a couple of quid a month to a DECENT streaming site and get all the Sky/ Setanta/ HBO/ Showtime fights for fuck all?I don't think it's the pound notes that are the issue here, £15 isn't that much compared to a couple of hours stood propping up a bar.
It's the idea that before too long we will have to fork out extra for every little small hall show Sky put on, when we know full well we're being stiffed.
We should not have to resort to the dark side of internet "radio" when we should simply be watching it on the telly like we have always done.
Kid Lucky
10-29-2008, 09:10 PM
PPV sucks alright, but expecting people to PAY FOR ADVERTISMENTS on a box office channel sucks even more and PAYING TO WATCH TV AT 3AM is a fucking sin, no other country would do that and sky dont incur costs like HBO they pay them a small fee and extort us, what are you even paying the subscription for??
ads on box office they ought to be sued for that.
Agreed - it is severely taking the piss to charge you to watch adverts.
I have paid for SOB in the past but try to be selective about what fights I pay for - like most sane people I didn't get the Amir Khan fight.
Will see how the bill shapes up before thinking about it further.
Claypole
10-29-2008, 09:11 PM
no it wasntPeople have been brainwashed by PPV. If they claim enough fights over the years were PPV, then they can convince themselves boxers Ricky Hatton and Amir Khan are PPV worthy.
GazOC
10-29-2008, 09:11 PM
yeah like stream tv , I been watching the HBO broadcasts instead of the tv for the camera angles and commentary , plus sky and setanta don't show all the fights, I saw all Jorge Arces last fights live, loads of them, one of my favs and UK tv showed not one.:good:good
Thats who I use, I don't think I've missed a fight in 3 years. It was even better VFM before Setanta picked up the Top Rank fights. I hook my laptop up to my TV and watch all the big fights for ~£2 a month.
As you say the HBO broadcast can be better than Setantas, better commentary than that "Bob" git and usually more undercard fights.
People shoud spend an half an hour or so sussing it all out instead of complaining about having to pay for the PPV and/ or posting requests for stream links 30 minutes before the fight is due to start....err IMHO. Sorry guys, I got a bit carried away there......;O)
brown bomber
10-30-2008, 04:55 AM
Any good quality stream sites you could suggest?
Paddy
10-30-2008, 12:47 PM
hes on my bewbo ...ill drop him a wee line and see if he is .
I heard his promotor was lining up something big so i would imagine t his is it!
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