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andyZOR
10-28-2008, 07:29 PM
Krzysztof "Diablo" Wlodarczyk


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Giacobbe Fragomeni

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Ill await to see the Kraj vs Frag fight before Ii make my pick!


WAR DIABLO!!!

BigReg
10-28-2008, 07:31 PM
It looks like another Cunningham victim is going to collect a belt. First Jones, and now Wlodarczyk. After Cunningham is done with Adamek, he can start cleaning up the division for real.

catasyou
10-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Fragomeni really went over what I expected him in the Kraj fight.Diablo should be careful.Plus this fight would be hard to make somewhere outside of Italy.

adamsutherland
10-28-2008, 07:39 PM
lets hope that cunningham and macca get two belts each, macca should beat banks for the wbo, then cunningham and macca fight jones and the winner of this, another Britain v USA clash coming up

andyZOR
10-28-2008, 07:43 PM
Gonna be nice seeing two Polish champions in the same division :yep

BTW how did the Jones vs Arslan fight turn out? I was gone for a long time and never seen it.... what happened and who was winning and etc...

Decebal
10-28-2008, 07:46 PM
When is this fight, Andy?:think

andyZOR
10-28-2008, 07:53 PM
When is this fight, Andy?:think

Notschedualed yet, but WBC said the winner between Frag and Kraj would fight number 3 Wlodarczyk.

Decebal
10-28-2008, 07:55 PM
Notschedualed yet, but WBC said the winner between Frag and Kraj would fight number 3 Wlodarczyk.

:thumbsup

Haven't seen either lately...but will watch with interest.:good

maciek4
10-28-2008, 07:57 PM
Gonna be nice seeing two Polish champions in the same division :yep

BTW how did the Jones vs Arslan fight turn out? I was gone for a long time and never seen it.... what happened and who was winning and etc...

Jones dominated from the outside, busted Arslan up badly.

andyZOR
10-28-2008, 07:59 PM
Jones dominated from the outside, busted Arslan up badly.

Any KDs?

andyZOR
10-29-2008, 07:19 PM
bump

tylerrcurtis
10-29-2008, 07:22 PM
Diablo by KO
Cant wait to see 2 polish champs in 1 divison!

andyZOR
10-30-2008, 07:45 PM
Diablo by KO
Cant wait to see 2 polish champs in 1 divison!

:good

TommyV
10-30-2008, 07:51 PM
lets hope that cunningham and macca get two belts each, macca should beat banks for the wbo, then cunningham and macca fight jones and the winner of this, another Britain v USA clash coming up

No way does Macca pick up 2 belts. He'll probably beat Banks due to the typical match-making we've become accustomed to for the ****** Boxing Organization title, simply because Banks is awful.

If he was made to face Alexeev like he should do, he'll get pasted as bad as he did in the Haye fight. And if he fights Jones, he'll get a beating just like Arslan, but he'll cave in earlier.

He can't compete at the top level. He's a top 10 guy no doubt, but if he fights guys like Cunningham, Adamek, Jones, Alexeev etc, he's either getting outworked or sparked.

His power is over-rated, he lacks basic boxing ability apart from a decent jab and occasional counter punching. He can't handle pressure, and his chin is bordering on glass.

andyZOR
10-30-2008, 07:55 PM
No way does Macca pick up 2 belts. He'll probably beat Banks due to the typical match-making we've become accustomed to for the ****** Boxing Organization title, simply because Banks is awful.

If he was made to face Alexeev like he should do, he'll get pasted as bad as he did in the Haye fight. And if he fights Jones, he'll get a beating just like Arslan, but he'll cave in earlier.

He can't compete at the top level. He's a top 10 guy no doubt, but if he fights guys like Cunningham, Adamek, Jones, Alexeev etc, he's either getting outworked or sparked.

His power is over-rated, he lacks basic boxing ability apart from a decent jab and occasional counter punching. He can't handle pressure, and his chin is bordering on glass.

Well said. I dont understand these Macca fan boys, sorry Wales, your boy sucks!

Stick to Calzaghe.

aillmatic
10-30-2008, 09:52 PM
Don't know much about either fighter honestly. I know I shouldn't make decisions based on boxrec, but from what I gathered.... I would take Wlodarczyk based on the age difference.

Brian123
10-31-2008, 12:13 AM
Krzysztof Wlodarczyk is skilled and would be very popular if he were American I see a TKO win around the 6th round in this one (if it happens).

andyZOR
11-07-2008, 12:40 PM
Newly crowned champion Giacobbe Fragomeni is nearly set to make his first mandatory defense against former IBF champ Krzyztof Wlodarczyk according to super agent Sampson Lewkowicz, pending final negotiations with Fragmonei's promoter OPI2000 (Salvatore Cherchi, CEO). #2 Herbie Hide and #3 Matt Godfrey have been ordered to fight an eliminator to determine the second mandatory challenger, (Fragomeni won a vacant title- hence the two consecutive required mandatory defenses).

PolishPummler
11-07-2008, 12:57 PM
The Italians were trying to pull some BS already so that Frag and have a easy first title defense.

They got denied.

andyZOR
11-07-2008, 01:48 PM
The Italians were trying to pull some BS already so that Frag and have a easy first title defense.

They got denied.

Yea I read that on a Polish site... rofl

I hope Kris knocks him out.

catasyou
11-07-2008, 01:50 PM
I heard the Italian Comission doesn't give licesnses for title fights for fighters over or 40...Fragomeni is 39 so this might very well not happen in Italy.

ChrisPontius
11-07-2008, 02:41 PM
First fight where it's impossible to pronounce the first and last name of either fighter.

Axe
11-07-2008, 02:58 PM
I'll pick Wlod to win, but Frag has sprung the upset before.

Hopefully BJ Flores fights the winner, and then the winner of that faces the winner of Adamek v Cunningham.

Odo
11-07-2008, 09:00 PM
Fragomeni should better rematch Kraj who could have won his encounter with the Italian if their fight hadnt taken place in Italy.

Brickhaus
11-07-2008, 10:10 PM
If Diablo is as tentative as he was in the Cunningham fights, Fragomeni should be able to win this fight on workrate alone. Jacoby by close decision.

The Phenom
11-08-2008, 11:56 AM
Wlodarczyk should win.Fragomeni gave Haye a fight though,could be an upset.

catasyou
11-08-2008, 12:13 PM
Fragomeni should better rematch Kraj who could have won his encounter with the Italian if their fight hadnt taken place in Italy. Explain?I thought it was pretty clear that Fragomeni won more rounds.Kraj just didn't perform good enough:huh

dudemcdudeson
11-08-2008, 05:02 PM
Good fight

Odo
11-11-2008, 05:30 PM
Explain?I thought it was pretty clear that Fragomeni won more rounds.Kraj just didn't perform good enough:huh


Their fight was stopped far too early,thunder! Premature stoppage! Whats more it was a very close fight up the stoppage!
Fragomeni only fought 2/3 of fight and was declared the winner by tko.
Very fishy IMO.

catasyou
11-11-2008, 05:34 PM
Their fight was stopped far too early,thunder! Premature stoppage! Whats more it was a very close fight up the stoppage!
Fragomeni only fought 2/3 of fight and was declared the winner by tko.
Very fishy IMO. Altough the stoppage was premature I thought....Fragomeni was winning it up to that point.

turbina
11-11-2008, 05:36 PM
Looking forward to this fight. Any ideas on when roughly itll happen?

Odo
11-11-2008, 05:36 PM
Altough the stoppage was premature I thought....Fragomeni was winning it up to that point.

It was close fight,thunder. I,too,would have scored their encounter in favour of the Italian at the time of the stoppage.However,I wouldnt argue the toss with someone who had it a draw.
Anyway! Fragomeni fights 8 rounds on his home turf in Italy. Result:he is the new champ. Leaves a bitter taste in your mouth,eh!

catasyou
11-11-2008, 05:38 PM
It was close fight,thunder. I,too,would have scored their encounter in favour of the Italian at the time of the stoppage.However,I wouldnt argue the toss with someone who had it a draw.
Anyway! Fragomeni fights 8 rounds on his home turf in Italy. Result:he is the new champ. Leaves a bitter taste in your mouth,eh! If he was winning the fight it doesn't really matter that much to me.Kraj really dissapointed me.I don't think he was going to win anyway.Fragomeni really fought with heart and will.And it was a damn good fight

Odo
11-11-2008, 05:47 PM
If he was winning the fight it doesn't really matter that much to me.Kraj really dissapointed me.I don't think he was going to win anyway.Fragomeni really fought with heart and will.And it was a damn good fight

Kraj now and then lacks the necessary desire to win a fight.I ve noticed it quite often whenever I watched one of his fights. Devoid of any emotions.
A very decent boxer who somehow doesnt seem to have the right actitude towards his chosen prof in order to be competive against the elite fighters of his weight division. He lacks the finishing magical touch,so to speak. Good fighter,but........ .

Axe
11-11-2008, 06:09 PM
BJ Flores ranked 15 now by the WBC despite not fighting since winning his IBF eliminator. Makes you think...also I see that Pawel Kolodziej is in the top 10, if Wlod wins what are the chances of Kolodziej v Wlodarczyk?

emanuel_augustus
11-11-2008, 06:43 PM
This is one hell of a matchup, the kind of fight that can ruin a career. These two guys are both flawed but evenly matched swarmers. Both come forward and won't back up, tough as nails.

I personally would make Wlod the favorite based off of youth and potentially greater stamina. Not a world class level boxing match in terms of skill, but will be a fun war to watch if made.

Wlod UD

PolishPummler
11-11-2008, 07:43 PM
Dont know shit about Fragomeni.I do know Wlodarczyk is limited but can crack.The only problem is he never set's his punches up and expects to land nothing but bombs.Wlodarczyk has a pretty tight defense.

Not his biggest fan(his style frustrated me)but i always wish my fellow countrymen the best.

andyZOR
01-06-2009, 09:55 PM
b-u-m-p

andyZOR
01-06-2009, 09:56 PM
it looks like another cunningham victim is going to collect a belt. First jones, and now wlodarczyk. After cunningham is done with adamek, he can start cleaning up the division for real.

: D

andyZOR
01-09-2009, 05:08 PM
Fight set.

FRAGOMENI - WŁODARCZYK 28 MARCH IN ITALY

yogster740
01-09-2009, 05:25 PM
looking forward to it...should be a good one

catasyou
01-09-2009, 05:46 PM
In Italy?Diablo is gonna hve some problems.Fragomeni is a good fighter.

Vantage_West
01-09-2009, 06:10 PM
for a 40 year old he fights and acts like he is 10-15 years younger. very awkward has a impossible style to figure out with the bobbing and weaving and he hard jab also a decent counter puncher.


krysztof im just not bough ton just my opinion

frag by ud

andyZOR
01-09-2009, 06:21 PM
If Diablo is as tentative as he was in the Cunningham fights, Fragomeni should be able to win this fight on workrate alone. Jacoby by close decision.


Ill agree to that imo. I said I was gonna pick after I seen the Kraj fight, and I think Fragomeni will win.

Wlodarczyk is a good fighter and hes always in shape. But I just watched Kraj vs Fragomeni (even tho the stoppage was kinda lame) I had the fight 77 - 74 for Fragomeni. I gave Kraj the first two rounds and that's it, all the rest I thought Fragomeni won.

IMO, this is probably a pick em fight. I dunno how Fragomeni does in the later rounds, but I see this either Fragomeni winning by points by about 2-4 rounds, or Wlodarczyk goes ape shit and TKOs him in 11th or 12th. Also you gotta keep in mind, Wlodarczyk is still 27, hes still a young kid. This guy is pushing his 40s....but none the less he did look good vs the Czech Kraj.

Hard for me to descide....but for now im sticking to Fragomeni on points.

He has a pretty good style imo. His bobbing and weaving will cause Wlodarczyk some problems I think. I think this fight will be a war :yep

I wonder if Fragomeni will be the favorite?

GO Diablo!

Brickhaus
01-09-2009, 06:35 PM
Fight set.

FRAGOMENI - WŁODARCZYK 28 MARCH IN ITALY

Bad news for Wlodarczyk. He needs a KO to get the win there. Not sure he throws enough punches to get it.

andyZOR
01-09-2009, 06:37 PM
Bad news for Wlodarczyk. He needs a KO to get the win there. Not sure he throws enough punches to get it.

This was also in the article:

According to the promoters of the organization the judges will have to be approved both by the Italian and Polish commissions.

Wlodarczyk could score a KO, he just needs to outwork Fragomeni. I dunno how Fragomeni does in the later rounds, is his stamina good?

andyZOR
01-10-2009, 02:55 PM
Michał Koper: Krzysztof, how do you see yourself starting with Fragomeni on Italian soil?


Krzysztof Włodarczyk: How I see it?? Colorful! I see it good, and im going there to Italy to win.

MK: You fought years ago in Italy vs Vincenzo Rossitto, and you managed to win. Do you belive it will work again this time?

KW: Oh of course, yes. At least I am aware, when you fight on other terrain I must show myself the best on the stage and give it my all. I need to win clearly, but im a fighter and I will show what I stand for.

MK: Some fans already are giving Fragomeni the win, just over the fact that this fight will be in Italy. Recently fights there have been stopped there to early...





KW: Im not gonna let this interrupt me and be stopped. Im going to the ring and im going to march forward with all my power.

MK: So you do not see waiting for the double-gard...

KW: No way. Im going to attack. We saw the fight vs Rudolf Kraj, he raises his beard and does not pay attention to the many elements that I will be seeking to exploit.

MK: J How are you preparing for this fight?

KW: Im now with my group leaving for camp in Zakopane (city in Poland), where we will spend 2 and a half weeks, and then we will prepare for the fight and have sparing. I am convinced that Andrzej Wasilewski will do everything to ensure the best possible sparring partners for me. It will be good!
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antcull
01-19-2009, 04:46 AM
Should be a cracking fight

Fragomeni is a real tough SOB who doesn't stop throwing and I can't see Wlodarcyzk knocking him out. Fighting an Italian in Italy who maintains the work rate and aggression of Fragomeni means the decision isn't going against him. He gave Haye all he could handle and Wlodarcyzk just isnt on the same level.

Even the great Marvin Hagler called Fragomeni a 'punching machine'

That said i'm looking forward to see what the pole has to offer.

Definitely a more interesting division then HW at the moment (Haye excluded :-D), some cracking fights on the horizon :thumbsup

andyZOR
01-22-2009, 07:11 PM
Should be a cracking fight



Agreed!


Fragomeni is a real tough SOB who doesn't stop throwing and I can't see Wlodarcyzk knocking him out.I do.

Fragomeni is no Cunningham. Wlodarczyk has some good technicality in his fights. It all so depends tho.

It was hard fight for even Adamek himself....

Wlodarczyk beat USS clearly in thier first fight.

Fragomeni is less elastic, doesn't clinch as much, and far from the Cunningham style.

Wlodarczyk imo got carried away in the second fight and took it lightly or somthin, and blew it. Wlodarczyk will come back strong now. Hes younger, hungry, and even said himself we will see a totally new Diablo.

Still, all these Cunningham fanboys here on this website demanding a rematch with Adamek.....


Why didn't he Wlodarczyk a rematch? He surley deserved it. He whooped him in the first fight and landed the cleaner better punches. Not only that, USS came with excuses up his ass to save himself. Now he didnt even give him a rematch.

Anyways, if Wlodarczyk is gonna box activly and go for the punch, even if Wlodarczyk is 80%, he will win. Even in Italy.

andyZOR
02-07-2009, 07:19 PM
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andyZOR
02-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Changing my pick to Wlodarczyk TKO.

andyZOR
02-22-2009, 05:07 PM
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andyZOR
02-26-2009, 12:07 PM
Diablo reportedly will get 100,000 Euros for this fight. His biggest payday to date.

catasyou
02-26-2009, 12:15 PM
Diablo reportedly will get 100,000 Euros for this fight. His biggest payday to date.
For such a big fight that is a poor purse:-(

jaffay
02-26-2009, 12:29 PM
Wlodarczyk should win this, but after 12 rounds it could be a scorecard miracle for Frago

andyZOR
02-28-2009, 10:32 PM
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catasyou
02-28-2009, 10:34 PM
Does Diablo have any weight issues?

andyZOR
02-28-2009, 10:36 PM
Does Diablo have any weight issues?

No, not that I know of.

catasyou
02-28-2009, 10:37 PM
Did you go to the Adamek fight or just catch it on tv?
The polish fans are always great,the atmosphere was awesome.

andyZOR
02-28-2009, 10:43 PM
Did you go to the Adamek fight or just catch it on tv?
The polish fans are always great,the atmosphere was awesome.


Just on TV.

I just can't wait for this damn fight!

I can't wait to see my boy Diablo in action. Check out the highlight video I made on the Diablo - Fragomeni fight.

After my boy Diablo TKOs Fragomeni, Id like to see him knock out Enzo Mac.

WLODARCZYK
MISTRZ SWIATA

andyZOR
03-06-2009, 12:05 AM
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andyZOR
03-11-2009, 04:50 PM
bump

andyZOR
03-23-2009, 08:57 PM
Cunningham is much more restless, often changes the position, has a large reach, is uncomfortable,he clinches a lot, I could tell a lot about Steve.

Fragomeni fights more cleaner than Cunningham, not attacked in such varied ways, is much smaller, and seems is much slower than Steve.


What links them is the fact that both are able to throw 2-3 punches with one hand, but Cunnningham is more restless, and Fragomeni doesn't move as well. The style fits me ...

- Diablo

psychopath
03-23-2009, 09:10 PM
Points or stoppage . . . I'm picking Wlodarczyk . . . more on stoppage.

psychopath
03-23-2009, 09:37 PM
Wlod is one of the most overrated fighters I"ve seen in years. Fraggy is going to get up in that ass.

Are you hating ???

Next time you post . . . make a little bit of sense.

Wlodarczyk is 27 yrs old; 6"1" and has 43 fights with 72% KO average Fragomeni is 39 yrs old; 5"9' and has 27 fights with 37 % KO.

I'm not saying that this is a SURE WIN for Wlodarczyk . . . but when you post something like that . . . back it up with arguement why you think it's gonna happen the way you see it.

andyZOR
04-25-2009, 01:52 PM
: D

andyZOR
04-27-2009, 07:58 PM
On Saturday, May 16, Rome will be back as the Italian capital of world boxing, thanks to OPI 2000 led by Salvatore and Christian Cherchi. At the prestigious Gran Teatro (3,040 seats), WBC world cruiserweight champion Giacobbe Fragomeni (26-1 with 10 KOs), will make his first defense against ‘El Diablo’ Krzysztof Wlodarczyk. (41-2 with 31 KOs). Born in Milan on August 13, 1969, Fragomeni is currently the most popular boxer in his country. On October 24, 2008, he won the vacant WBC crown defeating on points Rudolf Kraj. After eight action-packed rounds, the doctor stopped Fragomeni because of a cut; all the judges scored 77-74 in favor of Giacobbe who became champion in front of 3,500 screaming fans. It has to be noticed that Fragomeni sold-out the Palalido after 12 years. That’ s why a sell-out is expected in Rome too.

Born in Warsaw (Poland) on September 19, 1981, Krzysztof Wlodarczyk is a former IBF cruiserweight champion. He won the vacant belt defeating on points Steve Cunningham, on November 26, 2006, in Warsaw. ‘El Diablo’ lost on points the rematch on May 26, 2007, in Katowice (Poland). Since then, Wlodarczyk won four consecutive fights, all within the distance.

In the undercard, two extremely spectacular fighters: former European flyweight champion Andrea Sarritzu (28-4-4 with 11 KOs), and Mexican Adrian ‘ El Confesor’ Hernandez (14-1-1 with 11 KOs).

Three boxers very popular in Rome will be part of the show: superwelterweights Emanuele Della Rosa and Emanuele Blandamura, cruiserweight Andrea Moretti. It’s sure that their fans will buy many tickets to be at Gran Teatro. Also on the card, promising cruiserweight Mirko Larghetti.

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TFFP
04-27-2009, 08:02 PM
I thnk if Frag stays upright he'll win. Not just because of the hometown advantage, but his style. Combined they make quite a good case for him winning if this lasts the distance.

Wlodarczyk has his chances too. He really needs to use his physical and power advantages. I don't think there is much point in trying to be cute because Fragomeni will just outhustle. Wlodarczyk is a good puncher, a reasonable boxer but mainly a puncher, and Frag is there to be hit.

P4PNo.1
04-27-2009, 08:06 PM
On what little I've seen of both and their records I'd say Wlodarczyk should win. Fragomeni doesn't look up to fight at World level.

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04-27-2009, 08:24 PM
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Wlod is one of the most overrated fighters I"ve seen in years. Fraggy is going to get up in that ass.


:lol:

How can he possibly be overrated when he barely ever gets mentioned??

Decebal
04-27-2009, 08:26 PM
Go, KW!!!:happy

andyZOR
04-27-2009, 10:14 PM
Wlodarczyk has his chances too. He really needs to use his physical and power advantages. I don't think there is much point in trying to be cute because Fragomeni will just outhustle. Wlodarczyk is a good puncher, a reasonable boxer but mainly a puncher, and Frag is there to be hit.

Yep. Diablo has better defense and Fragomeni has a plodding come forward type style, a not bad style for a fighter like him tho, hes good by it imo, it suits him.

I personally changed my pick to Wlodarczyk TKO from Fragomeni UD.

Wlodarczyk has underrated power imo....Personally I think he hits harder than Adamek anyway, and many other cruisers.

I see Wlodarczyk winning the first couple rounds, Fragomeni will steal some of the mid rounds and I think he will tire out in the later rounds due to Wlodarczyks power punches and of course his age I think will play a factor in this fight too.. Diablo is still a young kid at 28, and Giacobbe is pushing 40...

Wlodarczyk wil then most likley tire him out and TKO him or possibly even KO. Im going for either 10,11,or 12.

Keep in mind Wlodarczyk is 1-0 vs Italians in Italy too ^_^

Wlodarczyk likes come forward guys like Fragomeni..I think it Fragomenis style suits Diablo... He might get in trouble maybe once or twice, like he did in the Halasz fight, but he should be able to recover and deliver the pucnhes and the knokout!

andyZOR
05-13-2009, 04:50 PM
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Earlier today, the famed Campidoglio (Rome’s city hall) hosted the final press conference leading up to the much-anticipated clash for the WBC world cruiserweight championship between defending champion Giacobbe Fragomeni (26-1, 10 KOs) and mandatory challenger Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (41-2, 31 KOs), which will take place next Saturday at the Gran Teatro (3,040 seats). The mayor of Rome, Gianni Alemanno, was on hand. Both fighters looked confident and in tip-top shape. “I’m very proud to fight in Rome and have the utmost respect for Fragomeni,” said Wlodarczyk. “But I have come here to win. Hopefully there will be a level playing field.” Fragomeni, who will make the maiden defense of the crown won last October in Milan against Rudolf Kraj, said, “My opponent needs not worry about the judges. This fight will be fair and square. May the better man win.”



Fragomeni w ryj dostanie!!

BremnerBomber
05-13-2009, 05:10 PM
No way Fragomeni is losing a desicion in Italy !!!!

Wlodarczyk will need a KO to have a chance, and I don't think Fragomeni is getting KO'd

Sorry Polish guys

andyZOR
05-13-2009, 05:14 PM
No way Fragomeni is losing a desicion in Italy !!!!

Wlodarczyk will need a KO to have a chance, and I don't think Fragomeni is getting KO'd

Sorry Polish guys

TKO 11

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catasyou
05-13-2009, 05:16 PM
Fragomeni looks cooler.
I think he''ll win if he puts pressure on Wlodarczyk,plus the hometown advantage.
But Wlodarczyk could go to war with him,Kraj tried to box and altough it did do well early he didn't finish good.

andyZOR
05-13-2009, 06:06 PM
Fragomeni looks cooler.


Pfft yea right. Hes a old man trying to act cool, no one is as cool as Diablo. :yep

Ireneusz Jelen 2-0 bitch.

What a game, to bad your Romanian ass probably missed it and masterbated to youporn instead. :deal

catasyou
05-13-2009, 06:13 PM
Pfft yea right. Hes a old man trying to act cool, no one is as cool as Diablo. :yep

Ireneusz Jelen 2-0 bitch.

What a game, to bad your Romanian ass probably missed it and masterbated to youporn instead. :deal
He's an old man,but he got the clothes,the tattoos and the bling to look cooler.
I missed the game but saw the goals.And no I wasn't masturbating.

andyZOR
05-13-2009, 06:17 PM
He's an old man,but he got the clothes,the tattoos and the bling to look cooler.
I missed the game but saw the goals.And no I wasn't masturbating.

Thats cause hes on home turf. Wlodarczyk only brought 1 bag to Italy no luggage or anything. He didn't go to Italy to look cool, he went there to seek and destroy!

And you missed a good game.

PolishPummler
05-13-2009, 06:23 PM
Wlod is going to knock Frag's crossed eye's straight.

andyZOR
05-13-2009, 06:26 PM
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man that is a MEAN picture.

I mean imagine them in a bar fight or somthin...

look how serious Diablo looks.

qwertyz
05-13-2009, 06:39 PM
I voted on draw, because in my opinion Wlodarczyk will be better in this fight, however Fragomeni's people - next to table - point every good action of him and score the draw to do not hurt Giacobe, cuz he will lose the fight in fact. I hope I'm wrong, but who knows.

PolishPummler
05-13-2009, 07:39 PM
Wlod HAS TO SCORE A KO.

The Italians are VERY dirty and corrupt when it comes to Boxing.

turbina
05-13-2009, 08:31 PM
Damn I wish this fight was being televised.

Hope Wlodarczyk knocks his block off. :bbb

andyZOR
05-14-2009, 01:42 PM
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WAR

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Vantage_West
05-14-2009, 01:54 PM
Damn I wish this fight was being televised.

Hope Wlodarczyk knocks his block off. :bbb
serious:blood

is it on eurosport or somthing?

andyZOR
05-14-2009, 02:07 PM
serious:blood

is it on eurosport or somthing?

Polsat Sport.

Thats all i know.

diamondDave
05-14-2009, 02:36 PM
I like Wlodarczyk in this fight.

andyZOR
05-15-2009, 07:23 PM
Wlodarczyk 198 Pounds.

Fragomeni 196.7 Pounds.

PolishPummler
05-15-2009, 07:30 PM
War

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 11:53 AM
War

Destruction!!!

170$ on Wlodarczyk

LETS GO!!!!

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 12:10 PM
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PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 01:06 PM
do it diablo!!

wojna krzyszu wojna

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 01:28 PM
WTF I just seen Marvin Hagler LOOOL

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 01:43 PM
WTF I just seen Marvin Hagler LOOOL

Hagler lives in Itali doesnt he?

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 01:47 PM
Hagler lives in Itali doesnt he?


Yea according to wiki...

I didn't get a good glimpse on how he looks they only showed him for like 2 or 3 seconds and the Italian commentator said "Marvin Hagler"

Sucks for Marvin tho, his boy is gonna get knocked out. :yep

:nut

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 01:50 PM
Yea according to wiki...

I didn't get a good glimpse on how he looks they only showed him for like 2 or 3 seconds and the Italian commentator said "Marvin Hagler"

Sucks for Marvin tho, his boy is gonna get knocked out. :yep

:nut

did you already order the PPV.

The card started????

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 01:54 PM
I ordered it yea, but they showing some tv show now and some discovery shit.

but now they just started, they showing the ring n shit now, and atm theres no fans or anything so the fight wont be for a while i belive. They are setting up chairs n shit right now

4 PM i think it should starrt...

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 01:55 PM
I ordered it yea, but they showing some tv show now and some discovery shit.

but now they just started, they showing the ring n shit now, and atm theres no fans or anything so the fight wont be for a while i belive. They are setting up chairs n shit right now

4 PM i think it should starrt...


how much for the PPV?

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 01:56 PM
5 Euros

So thats like almost 7 American US dollars.

good deal too imo

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 02:00 PM
5 Euros

So thats like almost 7 American US dollars.

good deal too imo

Off of the link i gave you right?

$7 is a good deal.

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 02:02 PM
Yes sir!

Tylko muszisz mieć paypala i credit card

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 02:03 PM
Yes sir!

Tylko muszisz mieć paypala i credit card

paypal and credit card???

cant just use a credit card??

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 02:04 PM
Well you need a paypal account with your credit card details and shit on it.

Debit will work too, I did mine with debit.

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 02:07 PM
You should order it man.

Its not every day you get to see a Polish fighter fight LIVE on tv. And honestly, whats 7 bucks! Thats a bargain! :D

Honestly, I only seen 2 Wlodarczyk fights live... all the rest were watched by me un-live.

Axe
05-16-2009, 02:07 PM
I hope Wlodarczyk wins.

Even though I picked Frag in kirk's thread, on account of the hometown advantage.

Go Krzysztof!

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 02:09 PM
I hope Wlodarczyk wins.

Even though I picked Frag in kirk's thread, on account of the hometown advantage.

Go Krzysztof!

Yep, I picked Fragomeni Points at first, but I really believe Krzysztof can pull it off. Hes already 1-0 in Italy so he knows what he needs to do :deal

Wlodarczyk TKO 11

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 02:12 PM
PP if you got any trouble doing it i can help if you want...

Its faily easy tho so u could probably manage it.

Axe
05-16-2009, 02:12 PM
Yep, I picked Fragomeni Points at first, but I really believe Krzysztof can pull it off. Hes already 1-0 in Italy so he knows what he needs to do :deal

Wlodarczyk TKO 11

KOing a more experienced, undefeated (20-0-1) Rossitto in Italy is what made me notice Wlodarczyk in the first place. A great win for a fighter with only 11 fights.

Still Frag is going to be hard to KO, I hope Krzysiu can do it but I think Frag gets enough help to literally steal a decision.

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 02:22 PM
PP if you got any trouble doing it i can help if you want...

Its faily easy tho so u could probably manage it.

Im gonna get my bro to use his paypal account

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 02:24 PM
Im gonna get my bro to use his paypal account

Ok mate. :D

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 03:28 PM
it's on Rai Due channel
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cant see nothing

LHL
05-16-2009, 03:38 PM
anyone know what time it is on at? I'm going frag UD not seen much of Wlodarczyk

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 03:49 PM
They are showing some fight, but its nothing big...the place isn't even half full yet..

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 04:24 PM
I think theres 3 more fights before the main event.. DUnno yet

The place is slowly getting filled up.

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 04:28 PM
Ok theres 3 left....

Right now they are showing

Vittorio Oi vs Sento Martinez

then
Adrian “El Confesor” Hernandez vs Abel Ochoa

and

Emanuele Della Rosa Vs Sebastien Spengler

LHL
05-16-2009, 04:30 PM
Ok theres 3 left....

Right now they are showing

Vittorio Oi vs Sento Martinez

then
Adrian “El Confesor” Hernandez vs Abel Ochoa

and

Emanuele Della Rosa Vs Sebastien Spengler

where are you watching it mate is it on tv somewhere i was looking for sky italia and couldn't find it

LHL
05-16-2009, 04:51 PM
is it on yet andy?

H .
05-16-2009, 05:11 PM
they say if Krzysztof Wlodarczyk wins, his first defense could be in Chicago on Aug 13th on Versus

:happy

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 05:24 PM
where are you watching it mate is it on tv somewhere i was looking for sky italia and couldn't find it

I paid a PPV for it!

Its on Rai2

VanillaKilla
05-16-2009, 05:29 PM
Italy is most likely the most rigged country when it comes to decisions, and I am including Germany. Maybe its got something to do with those mafioso :hey

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 05:37 PM
The judges for the Kraj - Fragmomeni fight are the same for this one.

They were pretty fair for that fight.

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 05:37 PM
fucking paypal...

andy PM me your screen name and password and let me see if it works..

LHL
05-16-2009, 05:39 PM
has it started ?

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 05:40 PM
fucking paypal...

andy PM me your screen name and password and let me see if it works..

Whats wrong with the paypal mate?

Do you get a error or somthing? Ill pm as soon as I can find out how to change my pw LOL

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 05:41 PM
Whats wrong with the paypal mate?

Do you get a error or somthing? Ill pm as soon as I can find out how to change my pw LOL


I set up an account haLfway about 2 years ago and it's now conflicitng when i put in my info.

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 05:46 PM
I can see Ruspa vs.??? at the moment - is this live Andy?

LHL
05-16-2009, 05:46 PM
i have dell Rosa on mine

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 05:47 PM
i have dell Rosa on mine

Yes, ruspa vs. de la rosa - is this live?

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 05:48 PM
dont want your pay pal info just the name and PW you used for that stream site

LHL
05-16-2009, 05:52 PM
Yes, ruspa vs. de la rosa - is this live?

no idea i have a feeling mine will cut off for the main fight

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 05:53 PM
The Ruspa fight is on now LIVE

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 05:55 PM
The Ruspa fight is on now LIVE

Cheers Andy... :thumbsup

H .
05-16-2009, 05:58 PM
anyone gonna do round-by-round on the main event?

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 05:59 PM
Round 6 1:30 left

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 05:59 PM
MAN IM SO PUMPED!!!

DIABLO WLODARCZYK!!!!!1!1!!

yes!

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 05:59 PM
In case any of you are interested you can watch the fight here. It isn't an illegal stream so I don't think we have anything to worry about.

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ishy
05-16-2009, 06:00 PM
no idea i have a feeling mine will cut off for the main fight

Cheers mate :good

LHL
05-16-2009, 06:01 PM
Cheers mate :good

:good np

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 06:01 PM
D i a b l o!!!

TKO 11!!!!

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 06:04 PM
FIGHT in 10 mins!!!!!!UNDERCARD OVER!

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:05 PM
gonna get a beck's for this :deal

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 06:06 PM
THis will be a FOTY candidate watch!! :D

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:10 PM
Will Frag come out in a ;'Hayemaker' t-shirt like for the Kraj fight?

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 06:11 PM
WOW DIABLO CHANTS! Who would of thought LOL

WOWOWOWOW

Oomffggg

IM SO PUMPED

DIABLO!!!

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 06:11 PM
Damn them Italians need to learn how to throw in some entertainment between fights.

Aint shit happening.

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 06:12 PM
Rabid Poles already chanting!!!

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:12 PM
This stream is hilarious. It's like the mic has been left somewhere random. You can hear randoms talking while the next fight is being lined up. It sounds like two cockneys, not Italians.

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 06:13 PM
Rabid Poles already chanting!!!


LMfao

rapid hahahhah

LOOK AT THAT BIG POLISH FLAG WOW 111LOL

I need to keep my composure. lol.

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:13 PM
This stream is hilarious. It's like the mic has been left somewhere random. You can hear randoms talking while the next fight is being lined up. It sounds like two cockneys, not Italians.

:lol: Yeah, I'm getting that as well.

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:13 PM
"Looking good mate, looking good"

"Thank you my friend, Thank you"

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 06:14 PM
Cheers for this.

Looks like I might be able to watch some boxing tonight afterall.

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:14 PM
I want Fragomeni to win this. I've liked him since the Haye war. Back then I thought Frag was great preparation for Mormeck. Frag sparred with Haye for that fight.

antcull
05-16-2009, 06:15 PM
this is hilarious

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:15 PM
"I'm in fucking shape man!" :lol:

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:15 PM
Is anyone else getting two spastics talking in an english accent? :lol:

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:16 PM
This is pure comedy.

Bodysnatcher
05-16-2009, 06:17 PM
Bloody hell that's a good quality stream.

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 06:17 PM
I just hope there are no dodgy decisions.

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:18 PM
I've had a perfect stream except for one small hiccup where I lost the feed for 5 secs. I got it full screen as well.

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:18 PM
If Fragomeni wins tonight, I bet we will see him vs. Huck by the end of the year...

PolishPummler
05-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Is anyone else getting two spastics talking in an english accent? :lol:

I still train hard mate....maybe it's Herbie Hide who is supposed to get a crack at the winner.

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 06:19 PM
This stream is PPV i think.

They probably wont show the main event

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:19 PM
I still train hard mate....maybe it's Herbie Hide who is supposed to get a crack at the winner.

:lol: Nah, Herbie has a Nigerian twang to his accent. Whoever it is it's hilarious.

Anyway, what's taking so long? Fucking Italian promoters.

LHL
05-16-2009, 06:20 PM
This stream is PPV i think.

They probably wont show the main event

i have a back up :lol:

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 06:21 PM
This stream is PPV i think.

They probably wont show the main event

O bollocks. Talk about raining on my parade.

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:22 PM
5Euros for the stream. Not bad. Hennessey take note :-)

H .
05-16-2009, 06:22 PM
:smoke

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:22 PM
when is the main event?

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:25 PM
when is the main event?

Either now or one more fight.

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:30 PM
WTF are we waiting for?!

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:30 PM
WTF are we waiting for?!

The news to end on RAI Due... :yep

andyZOR
05-16-2009, 06:31 PM
Diablo chants! I love it!

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:31 PM
It's going to start now...

SouthpawSlayer
05-16-2009, 06:32 PM
im not paying a fiver for this shit

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:32 PM
The news to end on RAI Due... :yep

:lol::good

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:32 PM
Here we go!! Diablo on his way to the ring......

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:33 PM
Remember the winner gets the unfortunate task of fighting Herbie Hide :yep

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:33 PM
Iiiiitttt'ssss HAAAAMMMMEEERRRR TIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!!

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Holy shit! The thread from the general has been transported into the Brit forum!!!

Dan684
05-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Ha I just noticed that

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:36 PM
This is some Doctor Who shit!

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 06:37 PM
:lol::lol:

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:37 PM
What? where the hell is the other thread?

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:37 PM
Ian John Lewis has never got so much attention.....

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:38 PM
Poland isn't still lost... ;)

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:39 PM
I grew up thinking the Italian anthem was the Ferrari anthem as they always played it at the F1 races when Schumacher won :lol:

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:40 PM
This English MC is the dude who does the Prizefighter shows.

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:41 PM
I grew up thinking the Italian anthem was the Ferrari anthem as they always played it at the F1 races when Schumacher won :lol:

Especailly Schumi being the master of ceremony in 1st place.... :rofl

Bodysnatcher
05-16-2009, 06:41 PM
They'll probably cut it off just as the first punch is about to connect.

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:41 PM
Especailly Schumi being the master of ceremony in 1st place.... :rofl

:lol::lol:

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 06:42 PM
They'll probably cut it off just as the first punch is about to connect.

Yeah probably....Bastards.:twisted:

LHL
05-16-2009, 06:44 PM
looks like this is staying up :D

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:44 PM
Another mod merged these threads.

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:46 PM
"keep them up! keep them up!"

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:47 PM
10-9 Wlodarcyk

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:47 PM
"keep them up! keep them up!"

:lol::lol:

"stop boxing!!"

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:47 PM
First round Diablo.

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 06:47 PM
One round and it's still going strong.

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:48 PM
Diablo 10-9

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:48 PM
One round and it's still going strong.

they will probably just repeat the first round 12 times :lol:

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 06:49 PM
Is that a fight going on in the crowd in the background?

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:51 PM
10-9 Fragomeni

19-19 draw

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:51 PM
20-18 diablo

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:51 PM
Frags becoming more aggressive and upping the tempo but he needs to do more.

I think there was a fight in the crowd.

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:52 PM
Better from Frag but still a Diablo round IMO. 20-18 to the Pole.

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:53 PM
"watch your heeaaaadddds!!!! watch them heads!!"

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:55 PM
10-9 Wloda

29-28 Wloda

hard round to score but Wloda is so more active to Fragomeni...

ishy
05-16-2009, 06:55 PM
Frag round. Good defence on the inside and landing good punches of his own. 29-28 Diablo

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:56 PM
Fragos upped the tempo even more. He is quite good at blocking and countering. He reads Diablos body movements so he knows what is coming. He knows a hook is coming when Diablo dips. Frago needs to keep the heat up.

Bodysnatcher
05-16-2009, 06:56 PM
Wlodarczyk won first three.

Outworking him and scoring with cleaner shots although Fragomeni is strongly in the fight.

BazookaJab
05-16-2009, 06:57 PM
Delete.

kosaros
05-16-2009, 06:59 PM
38-38

clear round for frag

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 06:59 PM
38-38 draw...

...rope-a-dope Fragomeni...fine skills...

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 06:59 PM
Diablo is folding under the pressure. He has began to abandon his boxing and exchange too much. Fragos round. I'd call it 2 a piece.

Bodysnatcher
05-16-2009, 07:00 PM
Fragomeni takes the 4th - the Pole is too close and inviting hooks.

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:00 PM
38-38 Rope a dope tactics from Frag :lol: but it's working.

Bodysnatcher
05-16-2009, 07:01 PM
Fragomeni growing in confidence.

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 07:03 PM
10-10 draw

48-48 draw

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 07:03 PM
Frag is getting to him with rattling shots. Diablos punches have lost their steam. 3-2 Frag.

kosaros
05-16-2009, 07:03 PM
48-47 frag

is starting to control the fight now.

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:04 PM
48-47 Frag.

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 07:07 PM
10-9 Wloda

58-57 Wloda

kosaros
05-16-2009, 07:07 PM
58-56 frag

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:08 PM
even round

58-57 Frag

BazookaJab
05-16-2009, 07:08 PM
Delete.

kosaros
05-16-2009, 07:11 PM
67-66 frag

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 07:11 PM
10-9 Wloda

68-66 Wloda

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 07:12 PM
I've got it 4-3 Frag. Diablo is getting tired, fighting in bursts, fighting Fragos in close fight and exchanging alot.

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:12 PM
Diablo round, 67-67 now (IMO)

o_money
05-16-2009, 07:13 PM
Diablo round, 67-67 now (IMO)

Dam sounds like a pretty good fight. Wish I was watching.

MonsterX
05-16-2009, 07:15 PM
looking at the way this fight goes it will be a pointwin in Italy for Fraggie

kosaros
05-16-2009, 07:15 PM
76-76

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 07:15 PM
10-9 Fragomeni

77-76 Wloda

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 07:16 PM
Dam sounds like a pretty good fight. Wish I was watching.

Theres a link a few pages back. It's meant to be PPV I think but it's still working for me and I haven't paid a penny.:good

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:16 PM
Frag round, 77-76 Frag

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
Frag down!!!!

BazookaJab
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
Delete.

o_money
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
Theres a link a few pages back. It's meant to be PPV I think but it's still working for me and I haven't paid a penny.:good


cheers I, I know a few places but I'm just popin g a glance cause I'm a little bussy b.s. work.

BazookaJab
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
Delete.

Grievesy
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
This ref's having a bubble!!!!!

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
tea time? haha

kosaros
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
that is one high pitched voice!

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
Frag down again, count not given as ref says he was hit when on the floor. Seems like Ian John Lewis has been paid off.

o_money
05-16-2009, 07:19 PM
Down goes fragomeni!!!


awh crap whats going on?

BazookaJab
05-16-2009, 07:19 PM
Delete.

achillesthegreat
05-16-2009, 07:19 PM
My stream was fucking up. ARGH.

Tom_Tocca
05-16-2009, 07:20 PM
87-84 Wloda

ishy
05-16-2009, 07:20 PM
10-8 round to Diablo

86-85 Diablo

kosaros
05-16-2009, 07:20 PM
can't remember scorecard, but diablo 2 points up now.