View Full Version : Vasquez vs. Marquez
So, who ya got? I don't have a vested interest in either guy, but I would like to see a war with Vasquez winning so there will be a possible trilogy.
Guido
08-04-2007, 05:02 PM
I expect the same result -- maybe a shorter fight this time. Vazquez seems that he was rushed back into this fight, knowing that this might be his last, best chance for a payday.
Knowing, still, that Vazquez can change a fight with one punch (like in the first fight), I still pick Marquez to finish him more quickly. TKO 5 or 6.
lokethunder
08-04-2007, 05:05 PM
vasquez by late stoppage after a back and forth war
Galaxy
08-04-2007, 05:15 PM
Israel Vasquez. i think this time he wears down Marquez for a late stoppage.
johnny5
08-04-2007, 05:22 PM
I want Vasquez to win this one but I think Marquez tko 8!
SkunkApe
08-04-2007, 05:23 PM
Vasquez.
Still the younger, bigger fighter, with a proven ability to put down Marquez with a single punch. Marquez never did manage to put down Vasquez the first time, and Vasquez was dealing with that nose since the second round or so.
If the nose holds, Vasquez does what he was doing in the first fight: weather the early storm, and come on down the stretch as the older Marquez tires, taking a close decision or winning by late stoppage. My guess is Vasquez by late KO, probably in rounds 9-11.
It oughta be good.
BigEars
08-04-2007, 05:24 PM
Marquez by stoppage for me........would I be right in thinking we've a slight chance of a war :p
Zakman
08-04-2007, 05:25 PM
Marquez. He's a class above Vasquez, and its gonna show more notably this time.
brooklyn1550
08-04-2007, 05:28 PM
Rafael Marquez in the mid to late rounds...I'm saying round 10. I think he will bust Vazquez up with the jab and land the cleaner shots. But you can NEVER count Israel out of a fight, so I'm really looking forward to this one.
the_what
08-04-2007, 05:44 PM
Vasquez by early stoppage. I expect Vasquez to start his attack even quicker this time around. The chinny Marquez wont know what hit him. :yep
miamite
08-04-2007, 05:59 PM
Marquez by stoppage within 9 rounds.
jonesjrp4p1
08-04-2007, 06:13 PM
marquez in prolly 8 i put 100 vcash on him
Lampley
08-04-2007, 06:15 PM
I'm going Marquez KO 6. He starts breaking him down earlier, and a desperate Vazquez gets stopped.
ChampionsForever
08-04-2007, 07:41 PM
Marquez will stop him in 10, hes just the better boxer and hes combinations were spot on last time, they will win him the fight.
Doc BNB
08-04-2007, 07:44 PM
Marquez, only by a quicker stoppage...let's say TKO 6
Galaxy
08-04-2007, 07:53 PM
anyone know if Israel Vasquez is still trained by roach and if not by who now?
Cookie
08-04-2007, 07:54 PM
I can't understand why so many people are picking Vazquez. I thought the first fight showed he couldn't handle Marquez's shots and, as if that weren't enough of a warning sign, he went and quit as well.
I'm not saying he CAN'T win. But why anyone would actually favour him is beyond me.
Galaxy
08-04-2007, 08:00 PM
I can't understand why so many people are picking Vazquez. I thought the first fight showed he couldn't handle Marquez's shots and, as if that weren't enough of a warning sign, he went and quit as well.
I'm not saying he CAN'T win. But why anyone would actually favour him is beyond me.
for me i'm going for Israel cuz in the 1st fight, IMO the momentum was going towards Vasquez, even with the broken nose before the stoppage. and while Rafa busted up Israels nose i reallly dint see him put israel in trouble like what happened when Israel cought Rafa. thats why i'm going for Izzy:thumbsup
knockout
08-04-2007, 08:03 PM
I see this going the destance because i dont think Vasquez is gonna get his nose broken again.hes out for vengence maybe not gonna quit so easly.
BlueApollo
08-04-2007, 08:57 PM
Should be a great fight, but Marquez doesn't just hurt people when he lands, each shot creates damage. Plus Vazquez's nose probably still isn't 100%. I'm taking Marquez by late stoppage or UD.
And the most annoying fight night question: is there a stream for this one?
Alo2006
08-04-2007, 09:06 PM
Marquez late TKO
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 09:06 PM
Mark my words, two years from now. The marquez brothers will just be a distant memory.
Hell no...die hard boxing fans will keep both fighters in memory. They dont get the hype they deserve...Raf is my favorite fighter to watch. B/c he is a little chinny but he comes back hard. He just got that thunder punch that you cant teach.
TIGEREDGE
08-04-2007, 09:07 PM
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Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 09:29 PM
Caballero looks like he may have been weight drained. His punches just don't have any snap to them tonight...
boxinghusky
08-04-2007, 09:36 PM
******* will show the main event
BOGART
08-04-2007, 09:38 PM
I went with Vasquez last time but this timeI'm taking Marquez. I don't think Vasquez can deal with Marquezs' jab and overall arsenal. Marquez looked terrific at 122. Vasquez is still a very live underdog and this should be a fantastic fight. Just gotta go with Marquez by stoppage.
dragosuhail
08-04-2007, 09:44 PM
i hope israel wins so there's a third fight. when two figthers bond style-wise it's fun to watch. if you get such a great first fight it's worth seeing a rematch provided it's not a onesided beatdown like calzaghe/lacy. that fight was impressive as a calzaghe fan but not worth seeing a second time since it was so one sided.
the gatti/ward, castillio/corrales type fights need rematches! :thumbsup
TIGEREDGE
08-04-2007, 09:48 PM
how long to the fight
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 09:51 PM
how long to the fight
Round 8 of the undercard is about to start.
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 10:08 PM
Wildly entertaining undercard. I have Caballero by 1.
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Much closer fight than the scorecards indicated. Bad scoring, very interesting refereeing (the ref was literally pulling on the fighters' arms during clinches), but it was probably the right decision. I don't see how you could have given Lacierva more than 6 rounds, and since he was rightfully deducted a point, he gets the win. I really do hope he fights the winner of the main event - Caballero is probably my favorite fighter to watch.
Probably the dirtiest fight of the year though. Both sides flagrantly used about every illegal trick in the book.
Morrissey
08-04-2007, 10:16 PM
Rafa will show his superior boxing skills once more. TKO by 5th round for him.
His jab was just perfect, and Izzy looked confused in handling it. I don't see how can he overcome that.
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 10:24 PM
This interview with Vargas and Mayorga is CLASSIC!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
"Let me light a cigar, then I'll answer the question"
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 10:26 PM
Mayorga is a character...he should do stand up..
Slaughter27
08-04-2007, 10:30 PM
So when's this fight starting?
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 10:31 PM
So when's this fight starting?
Probably about 15 minutes.
BigReg
08-04-2007, 10:41 PM
Marquez by KO
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 10:55 PM
Round of the year so far....
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 10:57 PM
Close, great fight through 4. Vasquez hurt towards the end of the round. I have Marquez 39-38.
BigReg
08-04-2007, 10:58 PM
These guys are fuckin each other up
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 10:59 PM
Let's go Rafael!
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 11:02 PM
Questionable slip call where Vasquez hit the canvas. Vasquez otherwise looked the better that round, but by no means dominated. 48-48. Great fight so far.
Big T
08-04-2007, 11:02 PM
Great fight...glad I have Showtime...this realy is something to enjoy!
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:02 PM
You'd have to be an idiot not to be watching this fight!
I cant get this fight. Can someone tell me if this is better than the first fight so far?
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:04 PM
too early to stop it!
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 11:04 PM
VASQUEZ TKO. I DEMAND A TRILOGY!!!!! FOTY so far.
BigReg
08-04-2007, 11:04 PM
Fuckin ref, Raf could've kept goin
dranon
08-04-2007, 11:04 PM
Vaquez Stops Marquez!!!!!
J_Roth
08-04-2007, 11:05 PM
Hell of a fight
Morrissey
08-04-2007, 11:05 PM
You'd have to be an idiot not to be watching this fight!
ooucch.. I have no access this time; I am in my work right now.. Just relying here for the updates..:yep
Brickhaus
08-04-2007, 11:05 PM
Fuckin ref, Raf could've kept goin
There was still a minute and a half left in the round. No way Marquez would still be standing by the end of the round. Slightly early stoppage, but a KO was inevitable.
Damn, questionable stoppage, tough to call, saw the replay, i think it was a bit quick
TIGEREDGE
08-04-2007, 11:05 PM
terrible stoppAGE
CASH_718
08-04-2007, 11:06 PM
Early stoppage but Marquez was in real bad shape.
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:06 PM
ooucch.. I have no access this time; I am in my work right now.. Just relying here for the updates..:yep That's understandable. You dont work...you dont eat.
Damm can someone give some detail.. what round, what happend, etc?
Please...
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 11:06 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
More Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marquez Jab Baby ...jab Why Did You Abandon The Jabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Am Crying Like Bitch Right Now....:| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :|
HitBattousai
08-04-2007, 11:07 PM
He was still throwing leather throughout Vasquez's onslaught and wasn't getting hit that clean, bad stoppage.
BigReg
08-04-2007, 11:07 PM
There was still a minute and a half left in the round. No way Marquez would still be standing by the end of the round. Slightly early stoppage, but a KO was inevitable.
I'm talkin with my heart here. I hate to see Rafael go out like that
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:07 PM
Ref stopped the fight too quick. Vazquez tko in round 6.
Morrissey
08-04-2007, 11:08 PM
Can't wait to see this one. In youtube.
Jose FM
08-04-2007, 11:08 PM
haha, can we say trilogy!
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 11:08 PM
Good Stoppage. Marquez Could Not Keep That Right Hand Up. He Would Of Got Killed In The Ring. These Guys Were Throwing And Landing Some Bombs. Vasquez Just Had A Better Chin. No Third Fight, These Guys Are Going To Kill Each Other...literally
TIGEREDGE
08-04-2007, 11:08 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
More Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marquez Jab Baby ...jab Why Did You Abandon The Jabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Am Crying Like Bitch Right Now....:| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :| :|
AM CRYING IS WELL. LOST 100 QUID ON MARQUEZ. WELL U CAN'T WIN THEM ALL
SkunkApe
08-04-2007, 11:08 PM
I can't understand why so many people are picking Vazquez. I thought the first fight showed he couldn't handle Marquez's shots and, as if that weren't enough of a warning sign, he went and quit as well.
I'm not saying he CAN'T win. But why anyone would actually favour him is beyond me.
That's why.
TIGEREDGE
08-04-2007, 11:09 PM
Good Stoppage. Marquez Could Not Keep That Right Hand Up. He Would Of Got Killed In The Ring. These Guys Were Throwing And Landing Some Bombs. Vasquez Just Had A Better Chin. No Third Fight, These Guys Are Going To Kill Each Other...literally
HE SHOULD OF BEEN GIVEN ANOTHER 20 SECONDS
I think Vasquez would have eventually gotten him, let's settle it with a rubbermatch.
the_what
08-04-2007, 11:09 PM
Vasquez by early stoppage. I expect Vasquez to start his attack even quicker this time around. The chinny Marquez wont know what hit him. :yep
Dont want to brag. But...:happy
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:09 PM
He wasnt even getting hit when the ref stepped in!
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 11:10 PM
Reg, I am with you baby...I am with you.....I feel heartbroken right now...GOOD STOPPAGE. You dont fuck around with punchers like this[
samita
08-04-2007, 11:10 PM
man, big up to both fighters, but specially vasquez fighting so courageously after being cut in every inch of his face. what a fight
Jose FM
08-04-2007, 11:11 PM
Good stoppage, he won the first so well have a trilogy.
HitBattousai
08-04-2007, 11:11 PM
Damm can someone give some detail.. what round, what happend, etc?
Please...
Near the beginning of Round 6 Vasquez caught Marquez with a huge left hook that dropped Marquez. Marquez got up immediately and took an eight count, but was obviously still fairly hurt by the shot. Vasquez came in on him hard, and was landing some big shots, but in-between Marquez was coming back with a few of his own. Eventually the fight moved towards the bottom left corner of the ring, Vasquez landed a few more shots and the ref stopped it. However, Marquez had still been throwing punches, attempting to dodge, and wasn't getting hit all that cleanly during the final flurry. imo, pretty early stoppage. Not Manfredo/Calzaghe level but pretty bad.
nrgetic
08-04-2007, 11:11 PM
Shit - stopped in 6 and Vazquez prevails - nice work
jackiebrown
08-04-2007, 11:12 PM
i bet my vpoints on vasquez...look in the forum .. i said they were gonna wanna pull for a 3rd match..which is why all of the sudden marquez is chinny and being stoped... yup yup..these grubby jew promoters gotta have there bentley payments ment..
3rd fight here we come!
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 11:12 PM
Rafael needs to work on that defense, other then that did you see the way he was jabbing and hooking off the jab early. Rafael should of paced himself and boxed more. He tried to fight too much. No way overatted.
nrgetic
08-04-2007, 11:13 PM
Good on Vazquez - he cost me money but its good to see an underdog prevail
BigReg
08-04-2007, 11:14 PM
i bet my vpoints on vasquez...look in the forum .. i said they were gonna wanna pull for a 3rd match..which is why all of the sudden marquez is chinny and being stoped... yup yup..these grubby jew promoters gotta have there bentley payments ment..
3rd fight here we come!
No need for the anti semetic remark
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:14 PM
I hate to change the subject but am I the only one that hates Jim Gray?
Judges had Vasquez up a round at the time of stoppage.
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 11:18 PM
I am getting more drunk..bad night of boxing for me..I hope Floyd dont fail me next...damn..damn.damn....my favorite guys has falling
No third fight. These guys are killing each other worst then gatti ward. They both will be punchy. Especially Vasquez. That right hand in round 4 I think was a monster. They both are each others worst nightmare...NO THIRD FIGHT. Fuck that, I care about the fighters. Fuck us fans.. no need. let it be even.
Toopretty
08-04-2007, 11:19 PM
I hate to change the subject but am I the only one that hates Jim Gray?
I hate his stupid ass too. He is about the dumbest idiot calling out punches that dont land and obviously has favorites. To much of a fan commentator.
samita
08-04-2007, 11:19 PM
btw, whats up with that fucking canvas full of slippery logos. its the most annoying shit ever. i wish the advertisers that that logo belong go bankrupt.
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:21 PM
btw, whats up with that fucking canvas full of slippery logos. its the most annoying shit ever. i wish the advertisers that that logo belong go bankrupt.I hate to even imagine this but I won't be shocked when somebody blows out a knee on that bullshit!
samita
08-04-2007, 11:23 PM
I hate to even imagine this but I won't be shocked when somebody blows out a knee on that bullshit!
yeah, it could've easily ruined the night. i wonder how hard it is to fix that thing between fights, especially that it obviously caused a lot of crap during the under card bout.
4Rounder
08-04-2007, 11:24 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!!
Now that was a freaking fight, an ELITE fight with power.
Round 3 may go down as round of the year.
Doc BNB
08-04-2007, 11:24 PM
Two fighters that applied their skills on the highest level, for the biggest available prize :happy That was an awesome fight. I had the right round, and the right result...just the wrong fighter :nut
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:25 PM
I hate his stupid ass too. He is about the dumbest idiot calling out punches that dont land and obviously has favorites. To much of a fan commentator.You thinking about Jim Lampley. I'm talking about Jim Gray. Did you see how he was talking to Fernando?
Damn i lost 10$ on that one. Damn i hope i never see this ref again.
Druid
08-04-2007, 11:27 PM
I hate to change the subject but am I the only one that hates Jim Gray?
Definitely not he is a tabloid journalist, we should only hear from him when we are reading the headlines off of the rubbish on the rack at supermarket checkouts.
MacManJr.
08-04-2007, 11:28 PM
yeah, it could've easily ruined the night. i wonder how hard it is to fix that thing between fights, especially that it obviously caused a lot of crap during the under card bout.I would put something sticky on my boots. Obviously the bloodsuckers will keep putting big logos in the ring forever. It makes them more money.
Druid
08-04-2007, 11:29 PM
Anyway, two brilliant fighters in another great fight.
What a year!
samita
08-04-2007, 11:35 PM
Anyway, two brilliant fighters in another great fight.
What a year!
yeah this year has been spectacular, and there are still a few left before the end of the year. if such fight wont save boxing, i dont know what will. unbelievable action and matchups in the lower weights.
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