View Full Version : I know you've seen 10 million HW highlights videos, but I thought these two were top
McGrain
10-29-2008, 02:28 PM
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Bad_Intentions
10-29-2008, 02:31 PM
never seen that one, thanks for posting.
McGrain
10-29-2008, 03:29 PM
No probs.
If anyone can tell me who that is Burns is banging out, i'd be greatful.
Also - check Jack Johnson's jab!
marciano1952
10-29-2008, 05:59 PM
No probs.
If anyone can tell me who that is Burns is banging out, i'd be greatful.
Also - check Jack Johnson's jab!
Bill Squiers if im not mistaken he was somthign like 36-0 36 KO's on a version of it I saw with sound not sure how ligit that is thow
McGrain
10-29-2008, 06:01 PM
Bill Squiers if im not mistaken he was somthign like 36-0 36 KO's on a version of it I saw with sound not sure how ligit that is thow
Thank you friend.
Bokaj
10-29-2008, 07:09 PM
Brilliant stuff! Thanks McGrain.
And, yeah, Johnson really had some jab. Enjoyed the footage of him.
McGrain
10-29-2008, 07:15 PM
The Johnson footage does stand out.
Not enough Frazier, and is it just be or is his KO of Foster absent? My only complaint. Brilliant extended footge.
janitor
10-29-2008, 07:25 PM
I can see why you posted that.
There is some particularly good footage.
janitor
10-29-2008, 07:28 PM
Bill Squiers if im not mistaken he was somthign like 36-0 36 KO's on a version of it I saw with sound not sure how ligit that is thow
It is unfortunae that the only fight of Burns that most people have seen is him being toyed with by Jack Johnson. He actualy looks rather impresive in some of his other footage.
Of course we can dismiss Squires in hindsight but he was a 3/1 favourite going into that fight. Burns was not expected to have an easy time.
Bokaj
10-29-2008, 08:15 PM
The Johnson footage does stand out.
Not enough Frazier, and is it just be or is his KO of Foster absent? My only complaint. Brilliant extended footge.
No, I thought I saw it there. Frazier is always lovely to watch, but I've seen comparable much of him compared to the old timers, so it didn't bother me that badly that there weren't more of him.
I really liked to see a young Patterson against Moore. He was a beauty watch, so quick and such upper body movement.
Vanboxingfan
10-29-2008, 11:31 PM
Great stuff !!!
My only complaint is that I wish there was one more from post Foreman to the present. But I guess most of us have seen these fighters so it wouldn't be as informative.
Not enough Frazier, and is it just be or is his KO of Foster absent? My only complaint.
Nah, it's there. About 17:50, I reckon.
ripcity
10-30-2008, 04:43 AM
thanks great vids!
McGrain
10-30-2008, 04:49 AM
Nah, it's there. About 17:50, I reckon.
:good
It's really a pretty decent reader from Corbett-Foreman, if you were new and wanted the gist.
McGrain
10-30-2008, 04:50 AM
Great stuff !!!
My only complaint is that I wish there was one more from post Foreman to the present. But I guess most of us have seen these fighters so it wouldn't be as informative.
Well the second one was only posted 3 days ago. Keep your eyes peeled.
fists of fury
10-30-2008, 06:44 AM
I'll have to look at these at a later stage. My bandwidth is reaching it's limit...
mcvey
10-30-2008, 08:48 AM
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Excellent! Thank you.Vey interesting to see Marciano ducking completely under the heavy bag ,don't think I have seen a heavyweight do that before ,factor in he was plagued with back problems late in his career ,I think he was wise to retire,once again thanks for posting.
McGrain
10-30-2008, 08:50 AM
Excellent! Thank you.Vey interesting to see Marciano ducking completely under the heavy bag ,don't think I have seen a heavyweight do that before ,factor in he was plagued with back problems late in his career ,I think he was wise to retire,once again thanks for posting.
That was interesting to me, too, what about that Johnson jab?
mcvey
10-30-2008, 10:39 AM
The one some insist he didnt have? :lol: I think Dempsey looked more polished against Tunney in their second fight ,than against Willard ,though he was over the hill and down the other side,his side to side ,bob and weave was very good.Sharkey looked very capable too.I was reminded ,looking at Tommy Burns, how fast on his fet he was,moving in and out of range ,looking for a chance to plant his right hand.Also I was struck by how many right hands Schmeling landed on Baer wiithout any visible effect,this was the same right that crucified Louis later.Watching Ali against Williams ,I'm forced to conclude no one would have beaten him that night ,just my opinion.
marciano1952
10-30-2008, 02:28 PM
It is unfortunae that the only fight of Burns that most people have seen is him being toyed with by Jack Johnson. He actualy looks rather impresive in some of his other footage.
Of course we can dismiss Squires in hindsight but he was a 3/1 favourite going into that fight. Burns was not expected to have an easy time.
agree man
I was blown Away the first time I saw that and even Looked twice to make sure I was watching Burns in there
Holmes' Jab
10-30-2008, 03:11 PM
Fantastic footage. Nice work. :good
MrMagic
10-30-2008, 03:18 PM
Awesome.
What struck me was Floyd Pattersons hand speed and accuracy with his left hook. He had the best left hook in heavyweight history, speed, accuracy and power, and he used it from all different angles.
SuzieQ49
10-30-2008, 03:50 PM
floyd pattersons peak fight might have been moore fight. his jab combo punching left hook everything was perfect. too bad moore showed up on an off night(not to take away from patterson victory)...the fight could have been a classic.
Floyd might have given a old rocky a few problems in 1956 till the rock took him out....floyds handspeed was ridiculous and rock was slowing down.
btw, anyone see rocky hitting that 300lb punching bag in his prime? he was a beast!
Dempsey1238
10-30-2008, 03:51 PM
Why you guys shock there is more Burns fights besides Johnson.
We have a good number of Burns fights, hell outside of Jack Johnson himself, and pound for pound though all the weights from Heavyweight to Featherweight from 1897(Corbett Fitz) to about 1910 the comming of Johnson up to Willard, Burns rank number 2 on most fight films off him.
After Burns and Johnson, than the likes of Gans, McGoven, Darcy, ete, all are pretty lucky to have 3 fights or more.
Wish it had more Burns in his section.
I mean there is more film than just the Billy Squairs fight, we have him against O Brain, Gunner Moir, Beckett and others, Should have been more Burns fights besides the one shown. His best fight on film imo is the Moir fight, that was just a amazing beat down. That was Burns "Dempsey-Willard" fight right there.
SuzieQ49
10-30-2008, 03:54 PM
what people dont realize though is as fast skillful beatifully artistic floyd looks in that footage in 1956...he was simply too small and fragile at 182lb to beat an older marciano or even possibly valdez and baker(although i think he might take these guys).
Vanboxingfan
10-30-2008, 05:30 PM
There's almost too much footage and fighters to comment on. What struck me most having not seen may of these fighters, is the effectiveness of Louis. Every punch he threw he put his weight into it. If seemed like many travelled between 6-18 inches before finding their mark.
In contrast you can see Ali doing almost the opposite.
But funny enough the outcomes were often the same. Ali's speed helped but he had more power than may people gave him credit for.
McGrain
11-07-2008, 07:52 AM
Bumpity.
Maybe everybody that wanted to see this did, but if you missed it bookmark it and come back when you get 30 mins, it really is worth it.
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