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Old 09-27-2009, 02:47 AM   #16
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anyone have a link to the post fight interview??
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:06 AM   #17
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If Chris was 30 lbs. lighter the result would not have changed. He's in excellent condition not just for his weight, but period. Apparently none of you guys took note of the fact that Chris was not winded at all throughout the fight. He continuously pressed the action while taking shots in the process. He took the fight very seriously. The guy's got grade A heart and irrepressible determination. It's just that tonight he was confronted with an opponent who had superior reach and was hell-bent on using it and was fully prepared to run or hug his way out of any potential danger Arreola might pose. This would still hold true whether Arreola came in at 250 or 220.
Thats such a giant load of shit. You can't possibly be training hard out and eating well and end up looking like that. It only takes a basic knowledge of training and dieting to realise that by no means was he in excellent shape. He barely threw any punches so you would want to hope he wasn't gassing out. He wasn't exactly fresh anyway, he was quite sluggish. Just because he plodded forwards after Vitali all night doesn't mean he was in quality shape.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:07 AM   #18
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CA is why i love boxing as well! I knew VK would win tonight... But I think if chris comes back and trains harder then ever then he could beat alot of fighters out there!! Lets face it who could beat a klitschko?? those guys are pretty damn good!!... The post fight interview from chris was what you call raw emotion.... he talks straight from his heart!! The part that had me laughing was when he was like "he was fucking me up but I could of finished, SHIT man, Fuck"!! LOL he just says whatevers on his mind
He really does. He doesn't censor himself at all. I remember seeing him talk emotionally about having his daughter in the audience and he's still talking the same way " It gives you an extra set of balls you never knew you had." He's a likable guy. I laughed at Bob Papa when he said something like "If we could just clean up his langauge..."
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:10 AM   #19
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Vitali is the best heavyweight in the world. Vitali will beat anyone in the world.

Vitali Vs. Mayweather. Vitali by knockout. I hope this fight happens, but Void wants to fight a flyweight next, then Christy Martin.

Angelo Dundee (2004): “He was on the way to becoming champion against Lennox Lewis, the fight shouldn’t have been stopped. But, you know, that’s boxing sometimes. The cut wasn’t in a dangerous place. It wasn’t bleeding into the eye.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:11 AM   #20
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Agree with the thread starter. Great stuff tonight and Arreola only increased his stock with tonight's performance.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:34 AM   #21
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Yeah, I don't see how crying after a loss shows balls and character in losing. He gave it his all, but dammit he was paid millions to, he better. I'm not laughing at him or anything, but I think the balls and character stuff was an overstatement. Should we really pat on the back every fighter who does what he's paid to do and fights hard even when losing?
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:17 AM   #22
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He has no heart!
If he had heart, he'd say no thanks to the Beer and Doritos™ that he stuffs his face with all year around. Sitting in the ring and getting beaten up for 30 minutes takes less determination than living a good clean lifestyle and training hard EVERY DAY. For that is what it takes to be a world class athlete.
Every day he had the opportunity to make himself better, to train hard, to eat right, to learn his craft.
Arreola is just a strong guy who stands there and swings. He has no heart. What he does is easy; a few minutes of discomfort for a large pay check. He just happens to be a naturally big strong guy, and he wastes that potential because he lacks discipline.
There is truth in this. Lasting ten rounds and never quitting or going down is all well and fine, but he was getting outpunched and outfought and has nobody but himself to blame for the stoppage. He could have entered with more than just blind faith in his ability to get inside and hurt Vitali with Creative Visualization in lieu of learned and earned ability.
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:18 AM   #23
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I don't know about that, every Mexican I know who watched it didn't look very proud after the fight. Actually one mentioned how embarassing it was for them. Of course I agreed and laughed at them.
If I were Mexican, I'd be far more embarrassed by both Cristobal's performance and his conduct than with Juan Manuel's last week. Cris should have taken his cues from the real Mexican.
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:23 AM   #24
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I like Cris, but can you imagine if Wlad or Vitali cried like that after
a loss? The haters would NEVER, EVER shut up about it. Just the facts.
I hear ya.
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:44 AM   #25
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I knew Vitali's skill would be too much for Arreola's. It does not help that he came in 10lbs over his ideal weight either. Unfortunatly to be the champ, you need to be more than just a big puncher...
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:46 AM   #26
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I felt so bad for cris and his family. But he gave his all. I can only respect that
No he fucking didn't. If he actually would've taken his training seriously, improved on his skills, and lost that excess weight then he would've been giving it his all. He got exactly what he deserved for his unprofessionlism and I don't feel sorry for him one bit no matter how many crocodile tears he weeps.
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:03 AM   #27
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Arreola is a true warrior... And YES warriors do cry... They cry out of disappointment from a defeat... Some warriors even will kill themselves (suicide/harakiri) after a defeat...

If Arreola is one reason why I love boxing, Vitali is another reason I love boxing... This guy is the heavy favorite here having the obvious advantage in size, reach and experienced over Arreola... But look at Vitali, he didn't play it safely, he did take a lot of risks and throwing a lot of punches... Unlike some proclaimed best boxer in our sport who already has all the advantages over his opponent but still avoids to take risks and his fights usually resulted as boring, safety first, potshoting, running game...
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Old 09-27-2009, 06:54 AM   #28
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Speak for yourself dude!! Respect to Chris for having the balls to step up to the plate and accept this opportunity, albeit at short notice.

However, it's well documented, and he's openly admitted, that he's not the easiest or most dedicated person to train. I personally take no pleasure or find no positives in hearing that he was taken to school and steadily pummelled by Klitchsko.

Too much heart and limited self discipline in this sport is a recipe for losing, and losing badly. There can be no providence in getting hurt to the extent that you risk becoming damaged goods!!

I'm really sorry to hear that he cried when the fight was stopped, as losing wasn't in his mindset. And as a proud fighter I'm sure he'd be cringing with shame at being pitied and loved for being a "tough assed" loser.

But, I'd bet that this reaction was also a consequence of Chris immeadiately realising that there was so much more that he could of done to prepare himself for the challenge!!


If he can find the self discipline, and the effects of this fight are not long lasting, he has every chance to still become world champion.
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Old 09-27-2009, 07:42 AM   #29
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Much respect for Cris, the last time someone managed to finish the 10th vs. Vitali was 7 years ago. Arreola has a true Mexican heart, also some skills people fail to recognize, just the Klitschkos are sublime when it comes down using their height. Vitali was too good. I don't think it's the last title fight of Cris, but until then, we might only get match-ups not half as exciting and this was.

That's why I kept insisting that this fight deserved a MUCH bigger build-up, probably an LA double-header first and hell, a 24/7 could've been the most memorable ever, so this fight could've meant a lot more to the US, German, international public. These are great guys not some fake idiot cherry pickers.

Cris won a lot of hearts yesterday. I liked him before, now I just love the guy!
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Old 09-27-2009, 08:05 AM   #30
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He has no heart!
If he had heart, he'd say no thanks to the Beer and Doritos™ that he stuffs his face with all year around. Sitting in the ring and getting beaten up for 30 minutes takes less determination than living a good clean lifestyle and training hard EVERY DAY. For that is what it takes to be a world class athlete.
Every day he had the opportunity to make himself better, to train hard, to eat right, to learn his craft.
Arreola is just a strong guy who stands there and swings. He has no heart. What he does is easy; a few minutes of discomfort for a large pay check. He just happens to be a naturally big strong guy, and he wastes that potential because he lacks discipline.
You're a Jackass!!
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