Please Participate--All Time Lightweight Survey (POLL CLOSED!!)

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Ezzard

1. Roberto Duran
2. Joe Gans
3. Benny Leonard
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Tony Canzoneri
6. Pernell Whitaker
7. Carlos Ortiz
8. Julio Cesar Chavez
9. Jackie Blackburn
10. Dave Holly

I don't know what to make of Holly he has 3 fights with a guy called Donkey King
Did he have big


ears?

6 fights with Joe Grim,but beats all time greats as well,then his career falls apart.

You don't have Ike Williams in your 10?
Each to their own ,but I would have thought he was a given .
No Ross either?

[IntentionalButt]

14 days.

Why does it seem we had twice as long with the other divisions?

[Boilermaker]

Originally Posted by mcvey

No Ross either?

Or McAulliffe

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Boilermaker

Or McAulliffe

Well ,Ill say this much McAuliffe, was better than I thought ,I learned quite a bit reading about him,he still doesnt make my ten ,but he has risen appreciably in my estimation .

[Rumsfeld]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

14 days.

Why does it seem we had twice as long with the other divisions?

Really?



I have the start and closing dates for the other ones posted in the Sticky here. I thought the last one was shorter, too, but I can't be arsed to look.

[Ezzard]

Originally Posted by mcvey

I don't know what to make of Holly he has 3 fights with a guy called Donkey King
Did he have big


ears?

6 fights with Joe Grim,but beats all time greats as well,then his career falls apart.

You don't have Ike Williams in your 10?
Each to their own ,but I would have thought he was a given .
No Ross either?

Feel worse about leaving Ross out.

I don't know... Whittaker should be in the top 10 BUT I think Chavez did more at 135 and I think their actual fight was more lop-sided than if it have had been at 135 a few years earlier. So IMO the gap is not as big as many believe.

It's possibly me being biased towadrs fighters of my own era.

[Ezzard]

Originally Posted by Manassa

I always regarded you as one of the more reasonable posters, which why it astounds me to see no Ike Williams on your list.

Not to say mine is anywhere near perfect, obviously. But it doesn't seem possible that some people remain adament about his #3 placing whereas other don't include him in a top ten. It's like a Lennox Lewis situation.

Thanks, Manassa,

This is the hardest poll. I always write down all the greats from the division and then slowly wittle them down. I look at this list today and think Ross, Williams, McFarland, Ambers and Tendler should be on the list.

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Ezzard

Feel worse about leaving Ross out.

I don't know... Whittaker should be in the top 10 BUT I think Chavez did more at 135 and I think their actual fight was more lop-sided than if it have had been at 135 a few years earlier. So IMO the gap is not as big as many believe.

It's possibly me being biased towadrs fighters of my own era.

Hey ,they are your picks ,and that is what's requested.

[Manassa]

Originally Posted by Ezzard

Thanks, Manassa,

This is the hardest poll. I always write down all the greats from the division and then slowly wittle them down. I look at this list today and think Ross, Williams, McFarland, Ambers and Tendler should be on the list.

No worries. You know I'm an Ike Williams nuthugger.

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by Ezzard

I don't know... Whittaker should be in the top 10 BUT I think Chavez did more at 135

Chavez had 4 fights at the weight, while Whitaker unified the division and beat all comers. Typo, maybe?

[Minotauro]

1. Roberto Duran
2. Joe Gans
3. Benny Leonard
4. Ike Williams
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Barney Ross
7. Tony Canzoneri
8. Carlos Ortiz
9. Packey McFarland
10. Jack Blackburn

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Manassa

No worries. You know I'm an Ike Williams nuthugger.

Oh fickle youth .How long ago was it when Roberto Duran was a god ,and Marvin Hagler his right hand man?



ps Three a's in adamant, if you are going to use flowery verbiage, like me ,spell it right.

[IntentionalButt]

This thread is giving me an ulcer.

[Manassa]

Originally Posted by mcvey

Oh fickle youth .How long ago was it when Roberto Duran was a god ,and Marvin Hagler his right hand man?



ps Two a's in adamant, if you are going to use flowery verbiage, like me ,spell it right.

Fuck me, the amount of mistakes I could pull you up on.

And I have a lot of favourite fighters, true, and I like talking about some more than others depending on who I haven't talked about in a while. People love to pick up on this as though it is high treason.

[Mr Butt]

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