MAB at his best, Can he Beat Pac

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

At 122 I give MAB a definite edge, from FW on up I give it to Pac.

You forgot that Pac was a superbantam beltholder at that time and just moved up to fight MAB. Pac officially weighed 124 lbs in that fight.

[NALLEGE]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

Sorry I don't waste keystrokes on complete morons. If you're at least just half a moron I'll usually try to school you, but it would take three of you to equal half a moron. Therefore I'll just let you talk to yourself for a while.

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

Might also have something to do with being sued by his manager right before the fight, having to fly to LA to get xrayed and having to explain the metal plate in his head, and being burned out of camp as well.

That said, I think Manny is naturally bigger than MAB, who was the smallest out of all five of the great recent featherweights and he was at his very best at 122. MAB is probably physically stronger than Manny at that weight and a 122 lb MAB can fight like a whirlwind all night long. The higher the weight class, the better Manny likes it.

I think you forgot that Pac was the IBF 122 champ while MAB was the Ring Mags 126 champ at that time. Essentially Pac was still a superbantam as he only weighed 124 lb for that fight.

[M.I.G.]

I love MAB, but Pac it's proven that he can't beat Pac.

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

ummm maybe because Pac looks ripped at 147 and MAB was soft as a marshmallow at 135?

You genious. lol.

Pac was only 22-23 at the time of the fight, probably still growing.

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by bernie4366

Could you possibly be that stupid? Really? Why would I even bother trying to argue with someone so stupid? You're a waste of time.

Honestly Dude, you're the one manifesting stupidity with this kind of post.

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by scatterbrain

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you are the fucking idiot around here.

so what if pac is ripped. he trains harder than most boxers.

how can he be naturally bigger when he walks around 147-150.

he is exactly the same physique as mab.

why are you trying to make it appear that pac is the bigger fighter.

go find a tree ang hang yourself, you village idiot.

Pac walks around 145-150 nowadays but 7 yrs ago he walked around 125-130 only!

[reed_man02]

I think so. If MAB fought pac like he did Naz he would have a won a UD. I don't think Barrera knew how good pac won and didn't know what he was getting into. Pac is a bad style match up though and pac would win more than he would lose against MAB.

[reed_man02]

Originally Posted by kalunya5964

Pac was only 22-23 at the time of the fight, probably still growing.

Na, not growing. He was in better shape more constantly at that age compared to now. I also think Roach decided once pac moved up, it is a good idea to stay there as moving down in weight would have a negative impact.

[kadyo]

Originally Posted by kalunya5964

Pac walks around 145-150 nowadays but 7 yrs ago he walked around 125-130 only!

I remember seeing pac on TV one month before the singsurat fight. When asked what his weight was, his manager answered 134 lbs which was 22 lbs heavier than the flyweight limit.

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by NALLEGE

Pac was not green when he fought Barrera so stop lying lol... Barrera was past it, slow, and rarely traded with Pac. Barrera was a far cry from ho whe used to fight, and many of you know it. Pac's fans love to say PAc was not a complete fighter even in the first fight with EM lol...

Pac was the IBF 122 champ when he fought Barrera, definitely not green. MAB was already shot at that time. He was 29 yrs OLD and was on a 9 fight winning streak against such fighters as Morales, Tapia, Kelly, Sanchez, Hamed, etc. before Pac-MAB I. To emphasize Barreras SHOTNESS at that time, He went on to win 6 straight fights against such fighters as Ayala, Morales, Fana, Peden and Juarez after Pac and even won a belt or two at 130 lb. What a SHOT fighter Barrera was at that time!

The current Pac may not be the complete fighter of NALLEGE's kind but he is definitely many times better than the one who fought Morales the first time.

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by reed_man02

Na, not growing. He was in better shape more constantly at that age compared to now. I also think Roach decided once pac moved up, it is a good idea to stay there as moving down in weight would have a negative impact.

Yes he was still growing but you're right he was constantly in better shape at that age as he had learned his lesson from his KO loss to Singsurat. He's more desciplined then and now than he was at flyweight.

[cloud_cyc]

Originally Posted by reed_man02

I think so. If MAB fought pac like he did Naz he would have a won a UD. I don't think Barrera knew how good pac won and didn't know what he was getting into. Pac is a bad style match up though and pac would win more than he would lose against MAB.

probably, but only if you are talking about the MAB (Naz fight) vs. the 126lb version of PAC. but today's PAC p4p beats prime MAB in my opinion.

[kalunya5964]

Originally Posted by kadyo

I remember seeing pac on TV one month before the singsurat fight. When asked what his weight was, his manager answered 134 lbs which was 22 lbs heavier than the flyweight limit.

I believe you. Pac had none or very little discipline as flyweight champ but he learned his lesson from the Singsurat loss and became what he is now.

[tolindoy]

Originally Posted by NALLEGE

Pac was not green when he fought Barrera so stop lying lol... Barrera was past it, slow, and rarely traded with Pac. Barrera was a far cry from ho whe used to fight, and many of you know it. Pac's fans love to say PAc was not a complete fighter even in the first fight with EM lol...

dumbass strikes again..lol

no floyd in this thread so GTFO dick rider...