Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! - Page 4

TheUnstoppable · 11-07-2009, 06:16 AM

I think a key point here is the the speed/mobility disparity will allow Haye to land with realtive ease, which will help his stamina; he won't be wasting his shots and he won't be missing (which tires you out).

I can't picture how someone, even Valuev, can stand up to, or at least remain anywhere near their optimum fighting state after taking several of Hayes shots to the face and body.

I'm terrified that Haye will win this then be robbed by the judges.

Will · 11-07-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUnstoppable

I think a key point here is the the speed/mobility disparity will allow Haye to land with realtive ease, which will help his stamina; he won't be wasting his shots and he won't be missing (which tires you out).

I can't picture how someone, even Valuev, can stand up to, or at least remain anywhere near their optimum fighting state after taking several of Hayes shots to the face and body.

I'm terrified that Haye will win this then be robbed by the judges.

I too find it very hard to believe that Haye will get a decision.

He will be expecting the knockout or at least some knockdowns otherwise he will realise he has little or no chance on the scorecards.

Heavyrighthand · 11-07-2009, 10:21 AM

Haye is so agile and fast handed, I see him being very effective at getting inside Valuev's jab and landing his powerful shots to the body, yes.

Its when Haye starts to land to the head, at at upward angle, is what will be interesting. Haye has said punching that high up uses different muscles than normal, straight punching, so it'll be interesting to see how much KO power Haye has when punching up to the 6 foot 11.1 inch Valuev's massive head, and solid chin.

This fight is gonna be interesting, to say the least. I love the biblical promotional poster they've got for it: David and Goliath. LOL Very fitting angle and very powerful.

Valuev's head is almost twice as big as Haye's LOL

TheUnstoppable · 11-07-2009, 10:37 AM

My previous points about Ruiz and Barrett give me a decent amount of confidence that Haye can both land on and hurt Valuev.

Daft as it sounds, that makes this fight SO much more comfortable for Haye. Both of them knowing Haye can hurt him will affect both their actions tbh.

Will · 11-07-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUnstoppable

My previous points about Ruiz and Barrett give me a decent amount of confidence that Haye can both land on and hurt Valuev.

Daft as it sounds, that makes this fight SO much more comfortable for Haye. Both of them knowing Haye can hurt him will affect both their actions tbh.

It's a fair point because I have never seen Valuev hurt!

I think after 1 round of taking body shots he will realise that Haye can hurt him.

If not Haye's in big trouble.

Gneus7 · 11-07-2009, 12:37 PM

Haye needs to keep moving. Do a bit of a RJJ impression and try to tag him the way Mayweather kept catching Corrales.

Will · 11-07-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gneus7

Haye needs to keep moving. Do a bit of a RJJ impression and try to tag him the way Mayweather kept catching Corrales.

Actually thats a good point. RJJ style lead hooks might work better than a jab.

andyZOR · 11-07-2009, 12:45 PM

Haye's trainers better be serious today, cause if they dont throw in the towel soon enough, that big bear from St. Petersburg, Russia will dismantle him.

Will · 11-07-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by andyZOR

Haye's trainers better be serious today, cause if they dont throw in the towel soon enough, that big bear from St. Petersburg, Russia will dismantle him.

Well I'll make a deal with you.
If Valuev dismantals Haye I'll come on here and let you tell me how right you were.
I expect the same in reverse theough.

11-07-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Will

Well I'll make a deal with you.
If Valuev dismantals Haye I'll come on here and let you tell me how right you were.
I expect the same in reverse theough.

That should be a given Will. I think you'll see Andy sporting a lovely new avatar as well

Will · 11-07-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2tall2slow2

That should be a given Will. I think you'll see Andy sporting a lovely new avatar as well

Hopefully it will be haye stood over michael myers or whatever his name is! lol

Hatesrats · 11-07-2009, 01:50 PM

I look for Haye to use waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much movement in this fight.
(Hope he don't waste himself just trying to avoid the inside)

Those who think Haye will rush Valuev, I suggest you forget that gameplan.
(I would be shocked If that happened...)

DH will prob use movement in hopes The giant follows him around the ring drop's his guard late Until haye can capitalize on a lumbering giant.

clyde · 11-07-2009, 01:52 PM

I've got a funny feeling Haye's gonna come out swinging from the opening bell....

andyZOR · 11-07-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Will

Well I'll make a deal with you.
If Valuev dismantals Haye I'll come on here and let you tell me how right you were.
I expect the same in reverse theough.

oh dont worry, ive talked a lot of shit, and i will eat crow if by some odd chance i were to be wrong. but i wont be

Will · 11-07-2009, 02:06 PM

If that happens then damn this is gonna be exciting. Gotta try and work out where I'm gonna watch it so catch you all laterz.

Enjoy the fight.

Come on the Hayemaker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-07-2009, 06:16 AM	#46
TheUnstoppable Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 324	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! I think a key point here is the the speed/mobility disparity will allow Haye to land with realtive ease, which will help his stamina; he won't be wasting his shots and he won't be missing (which tires you out). I can't picture how someone, even Valuev, can stand up to, or at least remain anywhere near their optimum fighting state after taking several of Hayes shots to the face and body. I'm terrified that Haye will win this then be robbed by the judges.
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11-07-2009, 10:21 AM	#48
Heavyrighthand Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,264	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! Haye is so agile and fast handed, I see him being very effective at getting inside Valuev's jab and landing his powerful shots to the body, yes. Its when Haye starts to land to the head, at at upward angle, is what will be interesting. Haye has said punching that high up uses different muscles than normal, straight punching, so it'll be interesting to see how much KO power Haye has when punching up to the 6 foot 11.1 inch Valuev's massive head, and solid chin. This fight is gonna be interesting, to say the least. I love the biblical promotional poster they've got for it: David and Goliath. LOL Very fitting angle and very powerful. Valuev's head is almost twice as big as Haye's LOL
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11-07-2009, 10:37 AM	#49
TheUnstoppable Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 324	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! My previous points about Ruiz and Barrett give me a decent amount of confidence that Haye can both land on and hurt Valuev. Daft as it sounds, that makes this fight SO much more comfortable for Haye. Both of them knowing Haye can hurt him will affect both their actions tbh.
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11-07-2009, 12:37 PM	#51
Gneus7 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 882	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! Haye needs to keep moving. Do a bit of a RJJ impression and try to tag him the way Mayweather kept catching Corrales.
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11-07-2009, 12:45 PM	#53
andyZOR =AJ AUXERRE= East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 15,469	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! Haye's trainers better be serious today, cause if they dont throw in the towel soon enough, that big bear from St. Petersburg, Russia will dismantle him.
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11-07-2009, 01:50 PM	#57
Hatesrats "Tijuana Tornado" East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 7,970	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! I look for Haye to use waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much movement in this fight. (Hope he don't waste himself just trying to avoid the inside) Those who think Haye will rush Valuev, I suggest you forget that gameplan. (I would be shocked If that happened...) DH will prob use movement in hopes The giant follows him around the ring drop's his guard late Until haye can capitalize on a lumbering giant.
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11-07-2009, 01:52 PM	#58
clyde Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,042	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! I've got a funny feeling Haye's gonna come out swinging from the opening bell....
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11-07-2009, 02:06 PM	#60
Will Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 206	Re: Valuev vs Haye Lets talk Haye's Gameplan! If that happens then damn this is gonna be exciting. Gotta try and work out where I'm gonna watch it so catch you all laterz. Enjoy the fight. Come on the Hayemaker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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