The Judges did a great job scoring Pacquiao-Marquez III; Mike Jones talks about Joe Frazier's death; Theophane-Wright on 12/10
By Danny Serratelli: Despite what many boxing fans think it is extremely difficult to accurately determine who won a 12 round fight under the 10-point must scoring system if you do not score the fight round by round as the official judges do. As most boxing fans know each round is usually scored 10-9, unless there is a knockdown, point deduction, truly even round, or in other limited instances such as when a fighter is thoroughly dominated and is able to remain on his feet the entire round.
Article posted on 14.11.2011
People are constantly accusing boxing judges of being corrupt. While there are always exceptions the fact is that most of the individuals making these accusations should educate themselves on the subject. Many do not understand how the fights are scored; they often think their experience as a trainer, fighter or working in boxing makes them an expert on who won the fight. This is regardless of the fact that most of these people do not take the time to keep score.
The guilty parties are not scoring round by round; they are just watching the fight as whole. This will often give you a very different perception of who won the fight. On top of that, the majority of the “experts” are watching pay per view in loud bars and homes, drinking, eating and listing more to the guy next to them or the commentary. To truly score a fight properly, you need to get in a zone like many of the professional judges do. Lock in on the fight with no distractions and score the fight round by round without taking into account the crowd or the commentary.
A closer analysis of the Pacquiao vs. Moralez fight illustrates why many fans are calling it a robbery, while knowledgeable boxing people either agree the judges were on point or that they are at least honestly in the ballpark. Punchstat numbers while sometimes useless, appeared to be useful in this instance. Pacquaio landed around 40 more punches and threw around 140 more punches. In this fight almost every round was close and many could have been scored either way. The rounds won by the widest margin were won by Juan Manuel Marquez. The cleanest and sharpest punches of the evening also were landed by Marquez. However, it appeared Pacquiao won more of the close rounds. He was busier and appeared to have the edge in ring generalship and effective aggressiveness in the rounds that were up for grabs.
Something else to be considered is that Pacquiao was around a 9-1 favorite and the public perception among most fans was that Pacquiao would walk through him. It is also important to remember that styles make fights and this match up will always create a competitive fights. People were starting to forget that Pacquiao is human and there is no handicap in boxing. The rounds must be judged without any bias stemming from expectations. The fact that Marquez performed better than expected and is perceived by the casual fan as winning doesn’t go for the knowledgeable boxing judge who is scoring each round individually and separately.
I scored the fight 115-113 for Pacquiao live, I then re-scored it in a more quiet setting and came back with the same result, but became more aware of how many rounds could have reasonably went the other way. 115-113 either way to me would not be controversial at all. Again, with all the close rounds 116-112 is not a travesty either and I think judges Dave Moretti 115-113, Robert Hoyle 114-114 and Glenn Trowbridge 116-112 all did a respectable job. I do not understand how anyone can say that any scores in this range is corrupt considering how close and difficult it was to score many rounds in the fight.
What is a travesty is to listen to a bunch of so called boxing experts, fans and people who barely watch the fight (and definitively do not score it). They jump on a popular bandwagon and give boxing more bad PR because they love to talk about corruption and fixes, drugs and negativity instead of about how Pacquiao and Marquez just put on another great fight.
Hopefully this off night by Pacquiao that he managed to overcome is just what the other pound for pound king, Floyd Mayweather has been waiting for and that superfight will finally be made. The sport of boxing, the fighters and the fans deserve that fight…… Boxing needs that fight.
Mike Jones, once trained by Joe Frazier, speaks on ex-champ's passing
Legendary Hall-of-Fame heavyweight champion Joe Frazier was laid to rest on Monday after having passed on Nov. 7 at age 67 from liver cancer. Undefeated welterweight Mike Jones, who was trained by Frazier as an amateur, reflects on his time with Smokin’ Joe.
It hits me to the heart. He was a great person to be around and a great friend.
We had a pretty close relationship. He took care of me a lot. He arranged transportation for me to his gym and then bought me a car. Everything was about the fighter. He knew the fighter had to perform so he took care of the fighter, no matter what. That’s what he was all about.
Joe always said: ‘You’re going to get your brain shook, your money took and your name on the undertaker book, so you better do all your roadwork. Never miss a day of roadwork and take it very serious.’ That’s in me to this day.
I was born with Joe Frazier DNA and when I went to his gym—my dad took me there when I was 15—I just got even more of it, that tough Philadelphia heart and the desire to go in there (the ring) and dig out a knockout.
Joe always put his imprint on everything. He wanted all his guys (fighters) to be modeled after him. He’d say: ‘You want to plant those feet and get those knockouts; be grounded and have that foundation first. Sit in the pocket and really dig it out.’ And his left hook? Oh, my! He’d say: ‘The left hook, the double hook, it’s not a 1-2, it’s all one shot.’
Joe was a great mentor to me, a great friend. He was a wonderful person. He was the best. He was a great personality, a great fighter. He was always about the fighter.
God bless him, may he rest in peace!
FINDING THE WRIGHT TREASURE
British Light Welterweight Champion Ashley Theophane defends his title on December 10th at Peterlee Leisure Centre in County Durham against the season long pro Nigel Wright.
Theophane won the title back in February when he out pointed the then current champion Lenny Daws, Theophane then went on to defend it against Jason Cook when he stopped him in the 10th round.
"I'm looking forward to defending my British title for the second time on Saturday 10th December.
"I'm sure Nigel Wright will be in great shape. I'm expecting a good fight but he will lose for the seventh time in his professional career.
"I've heard good things about the fans in County Durham so I'm excited about an electric atmosphere come show time.
"No other current 140lbs British fighter has achieved what I have so far in my career other than Amir Khan.
"2012 will see me win a World title and no one will stop me from achieving my goal. " Said Theophane
Former title challenger Nigel Wright and current English Light Welterweight Champion has been on a winning steak since he was out pointed by Ajose Olusegun back in June 2009 by defeating Alex Arthur and Dean Harrison.
Nigel Wright told frankmaloney.com “I let the British title slip through my hands once before and I wont be making the same mistakes again.
"I have seen a few of Ashley’s fights and I have seen a dent in his armor which I am going to take advantage of and come home as the New Champion”
Maloney thinks this will be a classic British title fight and will be expecting a hard 12 round fight as neither fighter has been stopped before.
The Show has an action packed undercard with Chris Edwards defending his British Flyweight title against the current prize fighter champion Shinny Bayaar. The undercard will also include hot Cruiserweight prospect Danny Price, with Pro Debuts for Paul Archer. Also fighting on the night Johnson McClumpha, Glen Foot, Marty Ward, Glen Ward, Robert Ismay, David Lake, Mark Glauxzel, Peter Cope and Gary Fox The show will be screened live on Sky Sports HD and tickets are available via www.frankmaloney.com or call the box office hotline on 0871 226 1508
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