Oquendo Calls out Arreola and Talks PEDs, Career, Corruption, Life after Boxing, and Mayweather-Pacquiao
Interview by Sam Geraci - May 29, 2012 at Chicago Fight Club Gym at 4835 N. Elston, Chicago, IL, 60630
Article posted on 31.05.2012
Sam: Congrats on your May 25th 9th round TKO victory over Joey Abell. How did you feel in that fight as compared to earlier in your career?
Oquendo: Thanks. Iím healthier now than I was in my twenties for the simple fact that Iím doing everything right from the training and management to going all-natural with natural supplements from the earth and even alkaline water. I feel great. My body is healing itself.
Sam: In that fight I thought I saw a few wrinkles from B-Hop. In particular the straight right hand followed by the quick footwork after the right.
Oquendo: We both did some work down at the 5th Street Boxing Gym and of course you pick up something from a fighter with footwork like Bernard. That was some veteran footwork moves I used on the 25th..
Sam: So, like Hopkins, you have been able to maintain a high level by living a clean life and staying in shape. Some fighters, however, like Berto and Peterson and even Toney and Mosley have tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. What do you feel about that and what those fight cancelations have done for the sport lately?
Oquendo: Unfortunately, these guys are being misguided and misled by whoever is advising them and theyíre not good people and itís real sad. Itís become a black eye for the sport and itís gotta be stopped. Guys like myself are the poster-child for whatís right and if you work hard, take care of your body the right way, and supplement your body the right way you can have a great long career and life like me and Bernard Hopkins.
Sam: So you think the fighters were taken advantage of? What do you mean by that?
Oquendo: Well, those guys like Berto are working with people like Conte who have been in trouble and to be working with someone like that it just shows how naive some of these guys are and itís sad. They still need to be responsible for what they did.
Sam: What do you think about fighters who wonít take the drug tests?
Oquendo: They got something to hide and they are guilty of not keeping the sport clean and they should be prosecuted for that.
Sam: So, as far as you regiment, how has it changed or how is it at 39?
Oquendo: Oh, man, Iíve been on a strict diet. For the last five years Iíve been taking blood tests to see what works well with by body and what reacts right. Everything that you eat is not healthy. Something might be healthy for one person but not another. For me, dairy and some nuts donít work good, so I have to take other things like Almond Milk or other natural supplements and I think they have helped sustain me to this point in my career.
Sam: Alright, letís talk about the ring. Who are you working with now in the corner?
Oquendo: Nate Jones, the 1996 Olympic Gold Medalist who is Floyd Mayweatherís assistant trainer, my old nemesis, my old foe from the amateur days. A great trainer and a great friend who is here training me.
Sam: How has that relationship been through the years?
Oquendo: Aw, itís been great. We have stayed close. He was a great amateur. Unfortunately, his career did not blossom in the pros. That just goes to show that some amateurs donít get that opportunity to blossom in the pros. For me, I didnít get that medal in the Olympics but I blossomed in the pros. It was tailor made for me, and Iíve been top ten for fifteen years.
Sam: Fifteen years is a long time to be in the top ten. A long time. One thing I gotta say about older fighters who make it though is that they are technically sound. Hopkins is technically sound. Tarver is technically sound, Toney and even Winky who weíll see this weekend to see if there is anything left is technically sound. Other fighters like Roy Jones and Shane Mosley who relied on speed and reflexes have really declined once the raw speed and reflexes were gone.
Oquendo: Yeah youíre right. Being technical will give you more time.
Sam: Hereís another question about aging fighters. Are you guys still able to compete because of being technically sound and what you guys are doing to stay healthy or is it more that this generation of young fighters just isnít that good?
Oquendo: No, this generation is good. I donít want to say anything bad about this generation or take anything away from this generation. I think they are good. We have the experience of everything in and out of the ring and we now take care of our bodies, but there are some good young fighters. Victories like mine last week and Hopkinsís over Pascal show that if you say ďnoĒ to drugs and stay true to yourself anything is possible.
Sam: What about the other man in your corner all of these years? Your brother?
Oquendo: My brother Henry. Thatís my right hand man. My Shadow. My inspiration. Weíve been through all of our trials and tribulations and weíve hung together since day one. He makes me proud. Heís getting his Masterís degree. I am very proud. When we get our stable of fighters at my gym, they are going to have me training and my brother and team helping them out so we can do it right for these kids. Do it honest.
Sam: How does your relationship with your whole team compare to your team when you were younger?
Oquendo: We got great chemistry. Tom Tsatas is a strong core and Nate as a trainer and my brother Hector Morales with my legal team keep everything moving the right way and they keep me focused and away from all of the distractions.
Sam: Seeing that things are going well, how much longer do you plan to fight?
Oquendo: Oh, not too long. I mean I love the sport and I feel great even better than when I was in my twenties but not too long. Maybe two to three fights but not more than two or three years. Only God knows. I want that elusive title then Iíll run off to the sunset.
Sam: Most of the public views you as a champ the day you dominated Byrd. How does that make you feel?
Oquendo: It feels great knowing that everyone knows what happened but that needs to change in boxing. These judges and promoters are corrupt, and theyíre giving a black eye to the sport. Itís about time that judges started getting suspended. In my fight with Mormeck everyone knows I won. Rafael called it a candidate for worst decision of the year and that guy got a huge payday to fight one of the Klitschkos while guys like me who are the poster-child for doing things the right way are getting left behind. That wonít happen to me again. I was pimped out there, and I wonít let that happen again.
Sam: I am with you 100%. One of the judges who was suspended was from the Williams-Lara fight. What do you think about what happened to Williams?
Oquendo: Itís real sad. He was a good fighter, and it just goes to show how dangerous motorcycles can be. You can be doing everything right and someone texting while driving can ruin it all. I wish him a quick recovery.
Sam: What about the other sad news of ring legend Tapia?
Oquendo: Oh, thatís real sad. He was a good Latin boxer and a nice guy. The autopsy will be out soon. He we went to the dark side from time to time so I hope he has finally found peace. My thoughts are with the family.
Sam: Well, letís get to it. This is what the fans want to know about Oquendo: Who do you want next?
Oquendo: Again, my big goal is the Klitschkos, but if that doesnít materialize then a big money fight with one of the contenders like Arreola, Mitchel, Jennings, or Adamek. The question is whether their people would put them against me, so in the meantime I need to stay active. Iíll get a shot soon. They canít avoid me forever.
Sam: Iíd love to see you in a classic Mexican vs. Puerto Rican matchup especially in September, but Iíd also like to see you in a mega Chicago showdown against Adamek that I think would sell well because of the large Puerto Rican and Polish populations in Chicago.
Oquendo: Yeah, thatíd be nice. Iíd take either fight. My choice would be Arreola because of the Machismo vs. the Sweet Science and I know Iíd take him because we sparred and I took him to school. But I am going to Poland soon for a promotion with Roy Jones and his Square Ring Promotions so maybe there will be a possibility with Adamek. Me and him are two fast and athletic heavyweights. That would be awesome in Chicago.
Sam: I think you and Adamek are both crazy enough to take that fight in order to prove your greatness.
Oquendo: Of course, of course. Weíre both fighters.
Sam: If the big fight doesnít come, which I think it will by the end of the year, but if it doesnít come and you hung up the gloves today, how would you feel about your career?
Oquendo: Iíd feel good. Iíve accomplished a lot and I am very proud of what I have done in the ring. To this day, everyone still calls me champ because they know I got robbed. I still have my health, which is not something every boxer has. I am also proud of what I have been able to do outside of the ring.
I fought my way out of the Chicago Housing Projects through boxing to avoid gangs and drugs. I have given back to Chicago and I am starting a not-for-profit in Chicagoís Humbodlt Park community called the Fres Oquendo Boxing Academy (FOBA) that will help kids of Chicago stay out of trouble and learn about the sweet science and how to take care of themselves the right way. Kids in Chicago, like I was, donít have access to education about how to take care of themselves the right way and this academy will help them for free and teach them to build confidence and self-esteem through the sweet science. Please check it out at www.fobaintl.org.
I would be very happy with my career if it ended today. I have given back to the community, and I have a beautiful family and they are proud of me and what I have done for them. If I left tomorrow, I already have my transition plan with the not-for-profit FOBA. I am very blessed.
Sam: Before we go, I wanted to ask which fighters you like to watch?
Oquendo: Manny Pacquiao, Floyd MayweatherÖ
Sam: Who wins that fight?
Oquendo: They both got distinctive styles. Itís very interesting. Um, Iíd give the edge to Floyd. You know, Iím a technical fighter myself and Floyd is a more technical fighter.
Sam: What about the heavyweights?
Oquendo: Um, thatís tough. Not many are good to watch.
Sam: Thanks a lot for the time, Fres. So, one more time. Who would you want most out of Arreola, Adamek, and Mitchell.
Oquendo: The Puerto Rican vs. Mexican matchup is what the fans want. Machismo vs the Sweet Science! Letís do it for Mexican Independence Day on September 15th.
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